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My first attempt at switching from e4 to d4

https://lichess.org/MUAoF9Mp

Guess I'll stick with e4 for now.

https://lichess.org/MUAoF9Mp Guess I'll stick with e4 for now.

You could lose this badly with 1. e4 as well. Keep practicing.

You could lose this badly with 1. e4 as well. Keep practicing.

yea, i would stick with e4 too, evans gambit is superior

yea, i would stick with e4 too, evans gambit is superior

@NNWill

Nice that you are trying new openings. Personally, I don't play 1. d4 d5 2.c4 Nc6 3. cxd5 because I find it easier to keep center control by either letting black take the c pawn or not taking the d5 pawn at all. Of course, when it becomes the middle game, that c pawn might find a way to get traded but I wouldn't do it right on move 3. Instead, on move 3, I would play Nf3.

If you ever find a variation that goes as follows, it gets interesting.

  1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6

In this position, you have options. Personally, I play Nf3. Nc3 works but it gives black the chance to play Bb4 entering the Roy Lopez. The response is so strong that I think that white is better off playing Nf3. Totally your choice though because Nf3 is still playable and common.

@NNWill Nice that you are trying new openings. Personally, I don't play 1. d4 d5 2.c4 Nc6 3. cxd5 because I find it easier to keep center control by either letting black take the c pawn or not taking the d5 pawn at all. Of course, when it becomes the middle game, that c pawn might find a way to get traded but I wouldn't do it right on move 3. Instead, on move 3, I would play Nf3. If you ever find a variation that goes as follows, it gets interesting. 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 In this position, you have options. Personally, I play Nf3. Nc3 works but it gives black the chance to play Bb4 entering the Roy Lopez. The response is so strong that I think that white is better off playing Nf3. Totally your choice though because Nf3 is still playable and common.

@NNWill I think that in your "adaptation period" in d4 world a good choice would be to try d4 + Nf3 (without immediate c4) systems against 1. .. d5, but against all others, particularly 1. .. Nf6 and 1. .. f5, Veresov attack 2. Nc3 is perfect. (N. B. You can play Veresov also after 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3, but you must take into account that after 2. .. e6 you have nothing better than 3. e4 which forces in main line French defense).

  1. d4 + 2. c4 is always acceptable if your opponent plays Slav / Semi-Slav or QGD, but you must take into consideration that in all other openings (Indian defenses and Gruenfeld) these two pawns together tend to lead to IQP positions.
@NNWill I think that in your "adaptation period" in d4 world a good choice would be to try d4 + Nf3 (without immediate c4) systems against 1. .. d5, but against all others, particularly 1. .. Nf6 and 1. .. f5, Veresov attack 2. Nc3 is perfect. (N. B. You can play Veresov also after 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3, but you must take into account that after 2. .. e6 you have nothing better than 3. e4 which forces in main line French defense). 1. d4 + 2. c4 is always acceptable if your opponent plays Slav / Semi-Slav or QGD, but you must take into consideration that in all other openings (Indian defenses and Gruenfeld) these two pawns together tend to lead to IQP positions.

@MasterLucienJaccon That is a very reasonable setup. I would just point out that 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 is called the nimzo indian.

The ruy lopez is 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3 Bb5

@MasterLucienJaccon That is a very reasonable setup. I would just point out that 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 is called the nimzo indian. The ruy lopez is 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3 Bb5

try out something more solid like a london system

try out something more solid like a london system

try 1.d4, d5 2. c4, e3, 3. c5 and your opponent's bishop it mostly trapped for the time being

try 1.d4, d5 2. c4, e3, 3. c5 and your opponent's bishop it mostly trapped for the time being

I suppose I should clarify. I studied d4 d5 c4 e6, d4 d5 c4 c6, and d4 Nf6 c4 g6, but never d4 d5 c4 Nc6. I never thought anyone would play it.

I suppose I should clarify. I studied d4 d5 c4 e6, d4 d5 c4 c6, and d4 Nf6 c4 g6, but never d4 d5 c4 Nc6. I never thought anyone would play it.

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