2024 Standings • page 1/2 • Antichess WC • lichess.org

ODMWND

#1

This thread is for ACWC 2024 tournament standings. Weekly standings will be posted here.

ODMWND

#2

Standings after stage 1: https://pastebin.com/Dp5gkL0J

TheKingOfKingsPawn

#3

I don't understand how to interpret this chart. What do the column titles represent? In other words, what is raw, tbl1, ect.. and how are the values determined and assigned.

patrickrg

#4

@TheKingOfKingsPawn said in #3:

I don't understand how to interpret this chart. What do the column titles represent? In other words, what is raw, tbl1, ect.. and how are the values determined and assigned.
Raw is the total points from your matches (1 point for a win 0.5 for draw and 0 for loss). Then tb means tiebreak. The first tiebreak is median-bucholz (sorry if I misspelled that) which is the sum of all your opponents' points except the best and the worst. Right now we are tied in all tiebreaks except raw so the tiebreak is the rating.

@TheKingOfKingsPawn said in #3: > I don't understand how to interpret this chart. What do the column titles represent? In other words, what is raw, tbl1, ect.. and how are the values determined and assigned. Raw is the total points from your matches (1 point for a win 0.5 for draw and 0 for loss). Then tb means tiebreak. The first tiebreak is median-bucholz (sorry if I misspelled that) which is the sum of all your opponents' points except the best and the worst. Right now we are tied in all tiebreaks except raw so the tiebreak is the rating.

TheKingOfKingsPawn

#5

@patrickrg So, if I went 1-6 verses Ma3ter3ky (which I did) then I should have a 1 in my raw column or is that just the match win (the one who achieved or exceeded 5.5 points) ?

patrickrg

#6

@TheKingOfKingsPawn said in #5:

@patrickrg So, if I went 1-6 verses Ma3ter3ky (which I did) then I should have a 1 in my raw column or is that just the match win (the one who achieved or exceeded 5.5 points) ?
It is the match win, the one who achieved or exceeded 5.5 points, so you shouldn't have 1 in raw

@TheKingOfKingsPawn said in #5: > @patrickrg So, if I went 1-6 verses Ma3ter3ky (which I did) then I should have a 1 in my raw column or is that just the match win (the one who achieved or exceeded 5.5 points) ? It is the match win, the one who achieved or exceeded 5.5 points, so you shouldn't have 1 in raw

TheKingOfKingsPawn

#7

@patrickrg said in #6:

It is the match win, the one who achieved or exceeded 5.5 points, so you shouldn't have 1 in raw
Ok. Thanks! So what is the TB3 numbers, which the data seems to be filtered by?

@patrickrg said in #6: > It is the match win, the one who achieved or exceeded 5.5 points, so you shouldn't have 1 in raw Ok. Thanks! So what is the TB3 numbers, which the data seems to be filtered by?

patrickrg

#8

@TheKingOfKingsPawn said in #7:

Ok. Thanks! So what is the TB3 numbers, which the data seems to be filtered by?
Ok so the tb3 is "Kashdan score", which I had absolutely no idea of what that was. I googled it and there were no results then I asked ChatGPT and didn't know either. After a lot of research I found on a Wikipedia page that it gives 4 points for a win, 2 for a draw, 1 for a loss, 0 for an unplayed game and apparently 5 for a full-point-bye. Its objective is to penalize draws and forfeits, because a win and a loss is better than two draws and a loss is better than a forfeit.

@TheKingOfKingsPawn said in #7: > Ok. Thanks! So what is the TB3 numbers, which the data seems to be filtered by? Ok so the tb3 is "Kashdan score", which I had absolutely no idea of what that was. I googled it and there were no results then I asked ChatGPT and didn't know either. After a lot of research I found on a Wikipedia page that it gives 4 points for a win, 2 for a draw, 1 for a loss, 0 for an unplayed game and apparently 5 for a full-point-bye. Its objective is to penalize draws and forfeits, because a win and a loss is better than two draws and a loss is better than a forfeit.

TheKingOfKingsPawn

#9

So that would explain why a person with a sub 1300 rating is sitting in the #1 slot currently after round one. I'm assuming that the opponent (that was rated about 2200) never showed for the match causing a forfeit. Thus the 5-point advantage in the TB3. The picture is becoming clearer. Thanks again for the researching it out and posting it here.

patrickrg

#10

Well this is kinda strange... The round 1 paring of this player was
Chijss vs Rishi_1311
The games were never played. Chijss posted on the forum that they claimed a win. But in the standings it shows like they have both won. Also, I thought Rishi had 5 on tb3 because they got the bye, but turns out that it wasn't them. This doesn't make any sense.

Well this is kinda strange... The round 1 paring of this player was Chijss vs Rishi_1311 The games were never played. Chijss posted on the forum that they claimed a win. But in the standings it shows like they have both won. Also, I thought Rishi had 5 on tb3 because they got the bye, but turns out that it wasn't them. This doesn't make any sense.