Can I play someone and also have a button to call up what a low level chess engine suggests

@ContrabassFlute said in #10:
> they would have the bot rank
a bot can also play casual
and I'm referring to just using the accounts
when to mess with the engine

@bufferunderrun said in #6:
> Be reminded of lichess.org/page/fair-play

I have no interest in cheating - I don't get it at all to be honest - maybe at top level where money is involved it makes sense

But at a lower level what honestly is the point - I would just be the monkey in the machine - moving the pieces as told to - getting a higher rating but for what and so what ?
To me it would be a pure waste of time and life
But some must get a buzz out of being that monkey - how - er er er - I have no idea

Much more fun for me to actually play and lose
With ratings we quickly hit our equal opposition and win/lose about 50/50 with every match being about the challenge

You can use an opening book for correspondence chess.
lichess.org/faq#correspondence

@Mark_Ilkley said in #1:
> I am a basic player and am teaching a total newbie to play chess
> We have found the take back move feature a game changer and she has learnt a lot more quickly as a result
> We are now at a position where she is good enough for me to not know what to suggest at times
> So ...
>
> What we would really like is to be able to play a game and have a button that we can sometimes click to show the suggested chess engine move
> Is this possible
> If not is there some way to have the chess engine showing the suggested best move all the time - this would not be nearly as useful to us though
>
> We play non rated games
>
> If not possible on Lichess are there other chess sites that make this possible
>
> I have considered having laptop and tablet side by side but I would really like us both to be able to call it up and see the answer and chat about it
>
> Maybe a bit like the take back option - so you both have to say yes to the "check the engine"

This is awful. Why not just lose games until you get better like everyone else?

@midnightmusicnetwork said in #14:
> This is awful. Why not just lose games until you get better like everyone else?
I often enjoy casual games with friends where we can take back, look at an engine and talk about its recommendations, etc. Obviously, I don't play those on lichess, given TOS, but it's a way to enjoy chess with someone.

Don't do it in rated games. That is scummy.

@midnightmusicnetwork said in #14:
> This is awful. Why not just lose games until you get better like everyone else?

Lol
What is awful about it - I cannot think of anything - did you actually read what I was saying ?
But I can think of plenty to enjoy about the process

Maybe enlighten me

@Mark_Ilkley said in #12:
> But at a lower level what honestly is the point - I would just be the monkey in the machine - moving the pieces as told to - getting a higher rating but for what and so what ?
So if all the lower rating players could cheat and the higher players couldn't you would think that's fair? No, because that would take away the entire purpose of learning in chess.
At that point, it would just be computer vs. computer.

I agree - that is what I have said - I don't understand the point of cheating - I would just be the monkey in the machine - doing what told - sounds like a very dull job to me even for a monkey

@Mark_Ilkley said in #4:
> t shows all the moves ahead in a little window according to stock fish analysis and we don't want to be able to see this

You can cover over the game score plus the engine output at the top.

At the extreme right under the game Window, click Hamburger Menu icon (3 parallel horizontal lines) and a windows opens up over the engine output and the game score. This window includes settings for the engine strength (reduce the resources available to the engine plus the option of showing arrows for the best and second best and an evaluation gauge option on a board etc

Neither of the following seem to suit your needs:
1) You can create a study and set it so that two players or more can be in the study and play a game with analysis on. Click the Menu button to toggle view of the engine analysis (but seems not to like it when you toggle).

2) In a study, you can make a new chapter with the starting board position and Practice with Computer as the analysis mode but even if I degrade the engine resources as much as possible, the engine still seems much too strong for a novice. It does offer a hint if needed and gives positive and negative feedback on each move and you can do a takeback.