Why no hello?

Hello has lost it's meaning. It is now just noise. Like excuse me. Machines can make sounds too. It's all meaning less. It never came from the heart. Hello is anyone there. Saying hello to nothing and asking if someone is listening. LOL

There was a time when I entered a room I would have to say good morning to the elders in the room. Since we do not have age on the internet, then there is no reason to say hello. Respect is a two way street. If you want a hello, you have to say it first. So show you have good etiquette and say it first. If you wait to receive one first, it shows you have no ethics. It's a me, myself and I world. Many have heard the phase: What's in it for me? When some people donate, they expect something in return. That's wrong. So donate a hello and don't expect a hello in return. Echos of hello are just echos. Hello, hel lo. yel low, a lo, a yo, hi, Hooah, salut, bye. TTYL.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahoy_(greeting)

I'd like to suggest a different take: how about adding a feature / setting that makes all your opponents automatically say hello to you, while at the same time hiding that response from your opponent?

Sure, your opponent didn't really say hello, but if you can't tell the difference, does it matter?

If you win, then saying GG at the end of the game is not polite at all, but rude

@Toscani said in #21:
> Hello has lost it's meaning. It is now just noise. Like excuse me. Machines can make sounds too. It's all meaning less. It never came from the heart.

I find that incredibly wise I must say. It is so true, I can only agree.

Hello.

Just in case I ever play you and have the chat disabled, which is likely as I prefer to concentrate on chess, consider yourself officially greeted.

Ah, and well played!

Needs are obviously not being met with automated greetings. The buttons can even be used sarcastically because of the words and how people interpret them. So they are ineffective and impersonal. An automated applause for the game or tournament could be better. The openings and endings of the chess games could be more pleasing with crowd sounds. Are the GG, WP, TY, GTG, BYE buttons used often enough to keep maintaining the code or are they obsolete. Words is not as universal as pictures and sounds.

mixkit.co/free-sound-effects/clapping/

Saying things at the end of a game can be very touchy. There are sore losers, braggers, mouthy and silent ones. The chat box is there for the gifted, to add that extra human interaction. Just having sounds, before and after a game, can have a profound impact on our emotions. Some might want to turn the feature off, while others will want it on. Which one is better? Silence first, sound after.

@drmarkmieth said in #1:
> I am not interested in discussions while playing, but with it being so easy to click the button provided at the start of the game, why do so many players not just "say" hello?
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> Likewise at the conclusion of the game, whether win, loss, or draw, again it is easy to be polite and "say" good game or well played.
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> I wonder if there is a way some of us could just play people who are kind and courteous?

I think some people think that if they say Hello, then it means they want to chat during the game and most people don't want to do that. I think saying Good luck is better because it is less open to a discussion... however, I think good luck can actually sound rude, like you can only win with luck... so... I usually don't say anything at the beginning of the game and nearly always say gg or wp at the end of a game...

lichess.org/@/Letpchess/blog/sportsmanship-in-the-game/PB1MuPqU

I wrote a blog post about sportsmanship awhile back. I agree that manners are important in the game.

@Sarg0n said in #5:
> Is is about dating or chess?

hahaha... "You had me at 'hello'" ...
Hope you know that movie reference...
Just couldn't resist

There may be players in kid mode with all communications restricted. They can't see what you're typing and cannot type any message to you.

@Letpchess said in #27:
> I wrote a blog post about sportsmanship awhile back. I agree that manners are important in the game.

One problem though is that often those who imagine themselves having gotten "snubbed" in some fashion or other can--and do--turn nasty about it pretty quickly (as we've often seen on the forums). Whereas a person who isn't quite so distraught about such matters is perhaps better able to shrug them off. That at any rate seems to me a better solution than turning into another one of those "WHY CAN'T ALL YOU JERKS BE NICE LIKE ME?!" people.

And as Dr Becker--with a certain measure of wisdom--noted: "No expectations--no disappointments." ;)