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how do you evaluate this position

https://lichess.org/ZiWJvcOz
please give a reasoning as well

https://lichess.org/ZiWJvcOz please give a reasoning as well
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White to move, black to move would be won quite easily with Bc3. @TheKingClash

Position too hard for my old phone but agree with SF10 you need to sac R to break bishop pair probably to stop blacks passer.

White to move, black to move would be won quite easily with Bc3. @TheKingClash Position too hard for my old phone but agree with SF10 you need to sac R to break bishop pair probably to stop blacks passer.
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I see no clear plan for white at first glance. I think it is easier to play with black.

I see no clear plan for white at first glance. I think it is easier to play with black.

White only has a 1 point advantage and black king is exposed
but black has a passed pawn and a seriously dangerous queen side pawn majority.
Its well known 2bishops + knight (3 minor pieces) are better than a queen.

If its black to move then bishop takes c3 wins on spot but if its white to move, then its seems kinda equal but I would much rather play black here

White only has a 1 point advantage and black king is exposed but black has a passed pawn and a seriously dangerous queen side pawn majority. Its well known 2bishops + knight (3 minor pieces) are better than a queen. If its black to move then bishop takes c3 wins on spot but if its white to move, then its seems kinda equal but I would much rather play black here

This belongs in the game analysis forum

This belongs in the game analysis forum

There are four steps through which I evaluate a position.

  1. Material
    The material difference is: white has 5 pawns whereas black has 7 pawns, and black has two bishops (bishop pair) for a queen. So black is down 1 point of material.

  2. King Safety
    I think white king looks pretty safe behind the pawns. Also, there are no direct plans for an attack on the white king. The black king looks safe to me too. Although one may think that the black king is out of its home, there are no direct attacking plans on the black king. Plus, the knight, bishop and the rook are near the king, defending it and covering key squares. So, both the kings are safe.

  3. Piece Activity
    White has a sad rook on a1, but its other rook is quite useful on the open e-file, as it is pinning the bishop to the king. The white queen is in its original square, though it can go to any side of the board it wishes. I think it's safe to say that the queen, although it hasn't moved from its original square, is kinda active. The white knight, though, is very inactive and away from the action. It doesn't control many squares.

Black's dark squared bishop is active; it exerts pressure on the c3 pawn and pins it to the rook. The rook on a8 is kinda sad, but I think it can be brought into the game via the d-file or the g-file. The rook on d6 looks useful, as it is defending the pawn and is centralized. The black knight isn't doing much, but ig one can argue that it is defending the king or it has good prospects. Black's light-sqaured bishop is currently pinned, but after the king moves, it can make itself useful.

  1. Space Advantage/Pawn structure
    I think black has a slight edge here because of the two central pawns.

This analysis from me might not be correct, but it's just what I saw. Feel free to point out mistakes from my evaluation and correct them.

There are four steps through which I evaluate a position. 1) Material The material difference is: white has 5 pawns whereas black has 7 pawns, and black has two bishops (bishop pair) for a queen. So black is down 1 point of material. 2) King Safety I think white king looks pretty safe behind the pawns. Also, there are no direct plans for an attack on the white king. The black king looks safe to me too. Although one may think that the black king is out of its home, there are no direct attacking plans on the black king. Plus, the knight, bishop and the rook are near the king, defending it and covering key squares. So, both the kings are safe. 3) Piece Activity White has a sad rook on a1, but its other rook is quite useful on the open e-file, as it is pinning the bishop to the king. The white queen is in its original square, though it can go to any side of the board it wishes. I think it's safe to say that the queen, although it hasn't moved from its original square, is kinda active. The white knight, though, is very inactive and away from the action. It doesn't control many squares. Black's dark squared bishop is active; it exerts pressure on the c3 pawn and pins it to the rook. The rook on a8 is kinda sad, but I think it can be brought into the game via the d-file or the g-file. The rook on d6 looks useful, as it is defending the pawn and is centralized. The black knight isn't doing much, but ig one can argue that it is defending the king or it has good prospects. Black's light-sqaured bishop is currently pinned, but after the king moves, it can make itself useful. 4) Space Advantage/Pawn structure I think black has a slight edge here because of the two central pawns. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This analysis from me might not be correct, but it's just what I saw. Feel free to point out mistakes from my evaluation and correct them.

The position is in the opening book, and even though stockfish gives an evaluation of -1.25 for the best move cxd4 white wins more than he loses.

I'd still rather have black. What would white's plan be? Black's pieces are more active.

Definitely an interesting position.

The position is in the opening book, and even though stockfish gives an evaluation of -1.25 for the best move cxd4 white wins more than he loses. I'd still rather have black. What would white's plan be? Black's pieces are more active. Definitely an interesting position.

Care to show the moves that lead to this position? I'm almost 100% sure it comes from the Max Lange attack.

Care to show the moves that lead to this position? I'm almost 100% sure it comes from the Max Lange attack.

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