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What is the general opinion about the future of online chess?

#11

I think that the use of AI is destroying the thinking for ourselves. As AI becomes more and more prevalent in on line chess ,so human play , intuitive play, become less and less and as Fischer said it's mostly a game of memory. I think chess at club level for us amateurs will always survive , but for advanced players it will be all draws and die . Unless , the powers that be ,introduced new rule where black can have the opening move 50% of the time xxx edit , when computers learn to play against computers white will always win because it has the first move ,quote taken from the queens gambit tv series .

I think that the use of AI is destroying the thinking for ourselves. As AI becomes more and more prevalent in on line chess ,so human play , intuitive play, become less and less and as Fischer said it's mostly a game of memory. I think chess at club level for us amateurs will always survive , but for advanced players it will be all draws and die . Unless , the powers that be ,introduced new rule where black can have the opening move 50% of the time xxx edit , when computers learn to play against computers white will always win because it has the first move ,quote taken from the queens gambit tv series .
#12

Cameras, screen sharing, and proctors can ensure integrity.

Cameras, screen sharing, and proctors can ensure integrity.
#13

@SimonBirch said in #11:

when computers learn to play against computers white will always win because it has the first move

I don't think so, IMHO it's way more likely that the initial position is a draw assuming perfect play from both sides.

@SimonBirch said in #11: > when computers learn to play against computers white will always win because it has the first move I don't think so, IMHO it's way more likely that the initial position is a draw assuming perfect play from both sides.
#15

i think there will be a split in such a way that online chess and OTB will be treated as two different sport .

i think there will be a split in such a way that online chess and OTB will be treated as two different sport .
#16

Call it a fantasy, but the future might see something like smart glasses (as seen on some anime) to analyze the opponent, moves, and suggest the right strategy moving forward.
Apart from this, I feel chess is going to gain more popularity, especially in the areas where it hasn't seen a lot of participation in the past. Like, after the previous World Champion from India, we saw many new Indian chess players emerge on the global stages. And, the recent FIDE World Cup winner from Uzbekistan wasn't very popular before. The game is going to be more intense and interesting for sure.

Call it a fantasy, but the future might see something like smart glasses (as seen on some anime) to analyze the opponent, moves, and suggest the right strategy moving forward. Apart from this, I feel chess is going to gain more popularity, especially in the areas where it hasn't seen a lot of participation in the past. Like, after the previous World Champion from India, we saw many new Indian chess players emerge on the global stages. And, the recent FIDE World Cup winner from Uzbekistan wasn't very popular before. The game is going to be more intense and interesting for sure.
#17

@powell2233 said in #16:

Call it a fantasy, but the future might see something like smart glasses (as seen on some anime) to analyze the opponent, moves, and suggest the right strategy moving forward.
Apart from this, I feel chess is going to gain more popularity, especially in the areas where it hasn't seen a lot of participation in the past. Like, after the previous World Champion from India, we saw many new Indian chess players emerge on the global stages. And, the recent FIDE World Cup winner from Uzbekistan wasn't very popular before. The game is going to be more intense and interesting for sure.

agree.. also online chess will fuel that growth .

@powell2233 said in #16: > Call it a fantasy, but the future might see something like smart glasses (as seen on some anime) to analyze the opponent, moves, and suggest the right strategy moving forward. > Apart from this, I feel chess is going to gain more popularity, especially in the areas where it hasn't seen a lot of participation in the past. Like, after the previous World Champion from India, we saw many new Indian chess players emerge on the global stages. And, the recent FIDE World Cup winner from Uzbekistan wasn't very popular before. The game is going to be more intense and interesting for sure. agree.. also online chess will fuel that growth .
#18

Personal opinion:

Online chess can't be taken entirely seriously because, even if YOU are serious when you play, you have no certainty about what the other player is doing ( you don't even know who they are, whether they're playing alone or with someone else suggesting moves, whether the account holder is letting someone else play in their place, etc.).
There's no comparison to OTB play, where you're face-to-face with your opponent.
Online chess can only be, so to speak, "certified" if, as @tpr already said, there were (multiple) cameras that allowed the game to be played under controlled conditions.

That said, online chess has advantages that, in my opinion, are hard to give up. For example, having the opportunity to always play against opponents of your level, avoiding the boredom of meaningless games.
And then, as has already been said, being able to play at home, when possible and convenient. If it were up to me, I'd always be in a club, because for me, chess is a social activity; but since I can't, I resort to online chess. If it weren't available, I simply wouldn't be able to play.

So, long live online chess.

Personal opinion: Online chess can't be taken entirely seriously because, even if YOU are serious when you play, you have no certainty about what the other player is doing ( you don't even know who they are, whether they're playing alone or with someone else suggesting moves, whether the account holder is letting someone else play in their place, etc.). There's no comparison to OTB play, where you're face-to-face with your opponent. Online chess can only be, so to speak, "certified" if, as @tpr already said, there were (multiple) cameras that allowed the game to be played under controlled conditions. That said, online chess has advantages that, in my opinion, are hard to give up. For example, having the opportunity to always play against opponents of your level, avoiding the boredom of meaningless games. And then, as has already been said, being able to play at home, when possible and convenient. If it were up to me, I'd always be in a club, because for me, chess is a social activity; but since I can't, I resort to online chess. If it weren't available, I simply wouldn't be able to play. So, long live online chess.
#19

@aminson123 said in #17:

Call it a fantasy, but the future might see something like smart glasses (as seen on some anime) to analyze the opponent, moves, and suggest the right strategy moving forward.
Apart from this, I feel chess is going to gain more popularity, especially in the areas where it hasn't seen a lot of participation in the past. Like, after the previous World Champion from India, we saw many new Indian chess players emerge on the global stages. And, the recent FIDE World Cup winner from Uzbekistan wasn't very popular before. The game is going to be more intense and interesting for sure.

agree.. also online chess will fuel that growth .

Of course! Online platforms have fueled growth in almost every segment. For chess, we are already into a blend of online and traditional modes of gaming with electronic (smart) chessboards. Expect to see more in the future.
However, @a_Tauri also shared a valid point here that playing face-to-face with an opponent with a physical board is second to none. Even the market of physical chess products is growing stronger, suggesting players' interest in physical products over online modes.

@aminson123 said in #17: > > Call it a fantasy, but the future might see something like smart glasses (as seen on some anime) to analyze the opponent, moves, and suggest the right strategy moving forward. > > Apart from this, I feel chess is going to gain more popularity, especially in the areas where it hasn't seen a lot of participation in the past. Like, after the previous World Champion from India, we saw many new Indian chess players emerge on the global stages. And, the recent FIDE World Cup winner from Uzbekistan wasn't very popular before. The game is going to be more intense and interesting for sure. > > agree.. also online chess will fuel that growth . Of course! Online platforms have fueled growth in almost every segment. For chess, we are already into a blend of online and traditional modes of gaming with electronic (smart) chessboards. Expect to see more in the future. However, @a_Tauri also shared a valid point here that playing face-to-face with an opponent with a physical board is second to none. Even the market of physical chess products is growing stronger, suggesting players' interest in physical products over online modes.
#20

@N00801 said in #3:

real chess always has been and always will be over the board, online is for practice, there is a reason that random people can get to 2000+ online but are struggling and will struggle to reach 1500 over the board, game is totally different over the board, and what comes to online chess is that the more people play the greater the percentage of people using outside help, no one will ever catch them and no one really should, cause it is impossible

agree that the only real chess is otb.
But, i, and so manny others are living in the countryside. No clubs here. If it wasn't for the it, playing chess would be impossible.
My wife plays too. But since she never won and hates losing, we do not play against each other anymore . So even if you've got somebody nearby, that doesn't mean you have a playing partner.
Ratings don't mean anything outside this site. It is an instrument for finding a playing partner within this site. No more, no less.
It was never meant to prove your strength outside.

@N00801 said in #3: > real chess always has been and always will be over the board, online is for practice, there is a reason that random people can get to 2000+ online but are struggling and will struggle to reach 1500 over the board, game is totally different over the board, and what comes to online chess is that the more people play the greater the percentage of people using outside help, no one will ever catch them and no one really should, cause it is impossible agree that the only real chess is otb. But, i, and so manny others are living in the countryside. No clubs here. If it wasn't for the it, playing chess would be impossible. My wife plays too. But since she never won and hates losing, we do not play against each other anymore . So even if you've got somebody nearby, that doesn't mean you have a playing partner. Ratings don't mean anything outside this site. It is an instrument for finding a playing partner within this site. No more, no less. It was never meant to prove your strength outside.