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Carlsen Held To A Draw By A 2566 Player: Cheating?

they cheated. they admitted they cheated. why do you pretend this did not happen? i have no idea what Han's preferred gender is, or what he has done or not done online. you keep claiming magnus cheated online with no proof, or any proof he "groped" somebody. if this is true, that would make Magnus a cheater as well as Hans and Maxim. it doesn't excuse Hans. it just makes all 3 of them cheaters. i repeat, if true, because i have only seen a few people claiming Magnus is guilty of cheating online; if they are doing this to deflect from the possible guilt of Hans and Maxim that would indeed be vile and repulsive.

im certainly interested in the extent and frequency of Hans' online cheating, and I hope chess.com is more forthcoming about this. it's directly relevant to his character and the probability that he would cheat over the board if he could get away with it. if you have evidence that Magnus has cheated online as well, you should alert FIDE, Lichess, and chess.com.
"Here; I posted this 10 minutes ago on another thread; but it was at the end of it ans won't be seen by many so I thought I'd post it here as well. Same topic for the most part. In reply to Alexi. Have a good day.

Really appreciate your posts. Deeply well written, thought out and insightful. I think it's been said by quite a number of people that -- a few dedicated, intelligent and so on and so forth people can do more than thousands and so forth, I just hope that the few dedicated people can make things better.

Everything you said is very true and I appreciate your posts (as an individual poster myself). The whole scenario is so horrendous atrocious and obscene, and I am just glad there are many like you with good sense, putting an effort to help clarify and rectify this situation.

Your statements are very clear and helpful and true. I understand these things by a process of "light-grasping" so to speak, just not holding onto any perception, and so on and so forth; and just understanding the nature of things. Like for instance Hans, our dear Hans, looking at his interviews it is for example *very clear* to see that he is telling the truth. If you are looking for a suave Orator in the Senate (think like Rome and stuff), -- No, that's not him. If you want someone explaining the very simple truth about what happened -- There you have it.

Above and beyond this the main issue I think is - -Well of course many things -- but the fractionizing of the chess world which has come about from the internet has been a bit of a big issue. To put this in a more philosophical way -- when several ideas for example, come together then they intermix and mingle, and so on and so forth. So does the lowest common denominator win from that, or does the highest? It's a mix of the two as it would seem -- but what I'm getting at is, that the "little pokes", the "little stabs" that people on the net -- or anywhere -- give each other are much more than it seems.

The "little negativities" and so forth. Of course -- in the last few years this has gotten better. But in the main thing that -- people who take to the shadows and take an absolute quest for power -- no matter who it is, unless they are *actually* an enlightened group, they will usually cause a lot more pain and suffering than is necessary. IF you tell one person -- just one person -- that they are meanginless, they have no rights, they have no value; they should not be heard - their voice should be silenced, and millions of other messages along this exact same negative vibrational frequency -- Literally if you tell one person, that will affect everyone; and if you tell person after person in an eternal line ------ Then it gets major. So that's what I mean when the "little negativities," build up. That's one place we have to fight this. There should Never be a "Shadow power council" but that's the way things have been going. And this blow up is the result of underwater, underground toxicity building up for quite a while.

The other main thing is the secondary streamers who give things like this a push. You have Hikaru who never tires of being wrong. To give an example: When Hikaru lost the chance to play Yan Nepomnyaschy (yep that's how he himself spells it, you may know it as Ian Nepomniachtchi) Erm-- anyway he kept saying "Magnus would have played for the W.C. if I had been his opponent." Well, no, that is obviously not true but he thought it was so very true. He said it over and over and over again, as his wont, and believed it to be the most remarkably true, completely clear and logical notion, and so of course that's why he repeated it dozens of times. Well -- No, obviously there's no chance of that and it's not a logical or sensible thing to think or say.

But again it just is what it is. Anyway in the current case he was similarly off-- only this time with an extremely heightened state of emotion he "roused the rabble" into an emotional frenzy. And other secondary streamers, with quite a few thousand or hundreds of thousands of viewers, get this same pitch and pick it up. They may be 1100 at chess (not a dig), but they join the chorus of pitch-fork burning group without any logic, without taking time and meditation.

Of course it's not new, as you mentioned. If we take a good look at many things of massive human interactions, they are often like this. People manufacture war and reasons for war, and this illogic, this wave of hostility and toxicity, is along the lines of that. But *it does not have to be;* it absolutely and certainly doesn't.

What's particularly odious about all of this -- as you mention how it's destructive for the chess community and so on and so forth -- is how much force is being applied to the completely wrong things. But I guess it's just a happenstance blow-up and it occurs and we should deal with it. To say that Magnus could easily put his voice behind Ukraine, Women's rights, or 25 million other probable causes, he could make a difference but instead he lost his perspective and just wants to magnify a misunderstanding of his own -- an inability of his own and failing of his own -- and throw his troubles in the face of every chess person on the planet.

It detracts from everything when things like this happen. So as mentioned, may peace bless the chess world. It certainly needs it. Again thank you for your clear, incisive and insightful posts @AlexiHarvey. You write clearly, with purpose and intelligence and thought put behind it.

Take care."
@kassanen said in #8:
> Cucklsen already uses his connections with his new owners on chesscom to wage a character assassination campaign on Nikita Meshkovs to save face

When I mouseover your username, the little message-in-a-box tells me that you are a cheater!

No wonder you're so anti-Magzy!
@StanFurd said in #23:
> When I mouseover your username, the little message-in-a-box tells me that you are a cheater!
>
> No wonder you're so anti-Magzy!

i trash-talkin my games. Also i checked ur bio and it says ur a chessable shill. considering the fact that magnus has bought the chessable platform how does it feel ur in a payroll of this sore loser?
@kassanen said in #25:
> i trash-talkin my games. Also i checked ur bio and it says ur a chessable shill. considering the fact that magnus has bought the chessable platform how does it feel ur in a payroll of this sore loser?

You're a cheater and a bad player. (And a bad speller.)

And while you're "trash-talking," the rest of us enjoy playing and studying chess - yes, chessable is awesome!
@StanFurd said in #26:
> You're a cheater and a bad player. (And a bad speller.)
>
> And while you're "trash-talking," the rest of us enjoy playing and studying chess - yes, chessable is awesome!
got u shill keep glowing in the dark *Click Cash Machine*

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