56 moves, 0 inaccuracies, 0 mistake, 0 blunder, 9 centipawn loss. Am I a cheater ? • page 1/5 • Game analysis • lichess.org

This is nothing of a great game as we are both below average players but this is according to lichess engine a perfect game. To certain, it could be associated with cheating. What do you think guys ?

This is nothing of a great game as we are both below average players but this is according to lichess engine a perfect game. To certain, it could be associated with cheating. What do you think guys ? <iframe src="https://lichess.org/embed/8kNl2vRZ#0?theme=auto&bg=auto" width=600 height=397 frameborder=0></iframe>

OnlyStupidNamesLeft

#2

Well, if you're a cheater or not, it's not for us users to check, but sometimes the opponent doesn't leave you much choice except to play the best moves and even the second-third best moves are nearly just as good. You're up a rook for most of the game, it's hard to make bad moves in this sutuation.

lurarose edited

#3

Your opponent was playing very poorly.

Those tripled pawns in the opening are an ouchie...
Then they did not recapture the bishop...
Then they hang a rook for a bishop which was not forced.

You were never really put in any "thought-provoking positions" that deep analysis would be needed to say "This move is an engine move."

When you got into the end of the game where you had 2 rooks vs 1 for some reason you did not simply trade off rooks after rd8? This move is the only move that makes me suspect possible cheating in the entire game, but that is unlikely because you did not perform the fastest mate and the engine did not trade here either, but moved the rook to another square. You played Ra5? Generally speaking almost every human player in this or similar situation here where there is no immediate mate possible and you got 2 rooks and they got 1 rook is going to simply trade a pair of rooks simplifying the position into one where you can premove pretty much everything and there is no chance to be swindled.

Your opponent was playing very poorly. Those tripled pawns in the opening are an ouchie... Then they did not recapture the bishop... Then they hang a rook for a bishop which was not forced. You were never really put in any "thought-provoking positions" that deep analysis would be needed to say "This move is an engine move." When you got into the end of the game where you had 2 rooks vs 1 for some reason you did not simply trade off rooks after rd8? This move is the only move that makes me suspect possible cheating in the entire game, but that is unlikely because you did not perform the fastest mate and the engine did not trade here either, but moved the rook to another square. You played Ra5? Generally speaking almost every human player in this or similar situation here where there is no immediate mate possible and you got 2 rooks and they got 1 rook is going to simply trade a pair of rooks simplifying the position into one where you can premove pretty much everything and there is no chance to be swindled.

ujcn

#4

@nicokin89 So do you suspect yourself a cheaters?

ProfDrHack

#5

As you can see in the graph in the computer analysis tab, Lichess internally caps the evaluation score once you reach a high enough value. You spent two thirds of the game on this plateau, not losing any centipawns in this period, thus your average centipawn loss (acpl) is very low.

In this phase, it's almost impossible to get "inaccuracies" (= small drops in the evaluation score, which as said won't register internally at these heights). "Mistakes" or "Blunders" can happen if you make a move bad enough to lose some or all of your overwhelming advantage, but you didn't, so none of them either.

All that's left is the first 16 moves, and you didn't collect inaccuracies, mistakes or blunders in these either, so voila, a "perfect" game.

It's more of a testimony of your opponent's bad performance than of an exceptional one by yourself, though. So, don't worry, you won't be labeled a cheater because of this game.

As you can see in the graph in the computer analysis tab, Lichess internally caps the evaluation score once you reach a high enough value. You spent two thirds of the game on this plateau, not losing any centipawns in this period, thus your *average* centipawn loss (acpl) is very low. In this phase, it's almost impossible to get "inaccuracies" (= small drops in the evaluation score, which as said won't register internally at these heights). "Mistakes" or "Blunders" can happen if you make a move bad enough to lose some or all of your overwhelming advantage, but you didn't, so none of them either. All that's left is the first 16 moves, and you didn't collect inaccuracies, mistakes or blunders in these either, so voila, a "perfect" game. It's more of a testimony of your opponent's bad performance than of an exceptional one by yourself, though. So, don't worry, you won't be labeled a cheater because of this game.

ujcn

#6

@nicokin89
Now cheaters do not make long series of moves on the 1st line. Some cheaters use the hint only at critical moments of the game.

@nicokin89 Now cheaters do not make long series of moves on the 1st line. Some cheaters use the hint only at critical moments of the game.

nicokin89

#7

#4 ( ujcn) not at all, never cheated, i don t see the point at all ;)

nicokin89

#8

#6 ujcn: To be honest with you , some time i have the feeling people do that. play normally and in critical situation they have the answer to everything. But i might be wrong because i am really not good player as you can see. I just started chess mores seriously few month ago .

nicokin89

#9

#5 ProfDrHack: thank for the explanation ;)

NoobBatter

#10

I would like to point out that in completely winning positions, its possible to go 0/0/0 with <10 acpl simply because no move was a blunder, you're just winning 24/7. (if u can comprehend my strange english)