Puzzle rating

Is a 2050 puzzle rating good for someone rated around 1300 on lichess blitz and 1300 on chess.com rapid?

Yes

Puzzle rating is not very conclusive, because how well you do very strongly depends on how you approach it, how much time you take, do you just take a guess and move, etc..

I lost 300 points for example after switching my approach to never put in a move before I'm not sure of the full solution.

All that said 2050 is not bad.

@lonelypeanut said in #3:

I lost 300 points for example after switching my approach to never put in a move before I'm not sure of the full solution.

All that said 2050 is not bad.

How would that approach (i.e. making sure you know the solution) make you lose points? Far as I can tell lichess doesn't care how long you take for a puzzle (?)

@coderunner86 said in #4:

How would that approach (i.e. making sure you know the solution) make you lose points? Far as I can tell lichess doesn't care how long you take for a puzzle (?)

Imo:
You can get a slight advantage if you just try to find the next best move instead of solve everything at once. Because you can put it in and then work with the opponents response.

Also if the answer is something I did not see coming at all I'd sometimes basically give up... ;)

I see - a bit puzzled (ahem) though that this would make such a big difference.
But then again my puzzle rating went up by 300 pts when I decided to quit doing easier (-300) puzzles and settled on normal.
I am sometimes tempted to go for +300, but the odds seem too high that I'd get my butt handed to me...

@coderunner86 said in #4:

Far as I can tell lichess doesn't care how long you take for a puzzle (?)
It does not but after some time the page (one hour or so?) reloads and you get a different puzzle. It happened to me few times.

@lonelypeanut said in #5:

You can get a slight advantage if you just try to find the next best move instead of solve everything at once. Because you can put it in and then work with the opponents response.
There is a risk, though, that what looked as best first move originally turns out to be wrong when you calculate deep enough.

It depends on a puzzle, of course. I had one (rated ~2500, IIRC) which would have been extremely hard to calculate all the way through from the starting position but in each step all possible moves except one were clearly losing either right away or within 2-3 moves. Thus you could go move by move until you got to a position where you could save yourself and get an advantage.

@mkubecek said in #8:

There is a risk, though, that what looked as best first move originally turns out to be wrong when you calculate deep enough.

Certainly, and in difficult puzzles there usually is a moment where the most obvious move is wrong. Or there is no obvious move at all, and you need to find a hidden idea.

It depends on a puzzle, of course.

Here are three examples from my recent puzzle history. All of them are quite difficult and rated around 2800.

1. https://lichess.org/training/CcxsL

It is possible to guess the first move, but if you do not see the followup in advance you are just lucky if you guessed right.

2. https://lichess.org/training/BcIOv

It makes little sense to spend any time before taking the rook on the first move, and the second move is quite easy, so I played it rather quickly. Only then it is necessary to think deeply, and the third move took me a long time. But not the fourth move which I had seen during my tank.

3. https://lichess.org/training/6XbYy

This is a case where seeing everything in advance is beyond my capabilities. On the first move there is only one sensible try, and only at move three the choice is difficult. I guessed right, but if the puzzle had continued beyond move four, I most surely would have failed. After the critical reply White still needs to find three extremely hard only moves, and if those were required the puzzle would have been rated much higher, likely over 3000.

@Richard_6B33 said in #1:

Is a 2050 puzzle rating good for someone rated around 1300 on lichess blitz and 1300 on chess.com rapid?

Pretty good! :) With the remark that with puzzles you can just guess the next move perhaps without losing much rating. In real games, especially slower time control games guessing is usually not very beneficial. Also blitz ratings, especially when you're still learning and trying to improve your chess skills, are maybe not a good way for comparison. For example some GMs are quite slow, and not so great with blitz but very good at slow time controls. Maybe you are a slow thinker, and that's fine.