Calm down (or freak out if you want). I censored myself.
@DerNickWarNochFrei sorry you took it personally, but @Sarg0n was the other guy saying the same thing about "good game" and he's German, and yours is definitely a German nick.
I wasn't trying to accuse anybody, just sheer curiosity, an honest question: I find it hard to understand why if I say "good game" after a game that I though was good you guys think is bad etiquette. So I was investigating, coz maybe next time I won't say it.
Now, nazi???
I wasn't trying to accuse anybody, just sheer curiosity, an honest question: I find it hard to understand why if I say "good game" after a game that I though was good you guys think is bad etiquette. So I was investigating, coz maybe next time I won't say it.
Now, nazi???
Ok, thanks for asking.
Some reasons why "good game" is not gentleman style in my opinion:
1) If you tell him "gg", you deny his possible pain. Why should he feel pain, as he has just experienced something "good"?
2) Knowing that he is currently too weak for a decent discussion, you express an 0-8-15 opinion about this game. And it is a wrong opinion. He lost, so he didnt make good moves, so the game was not good. Not for him.
3) By not noting this, you show an absence of compassion, and thus shows some form of ... mental simplicity. That makes it worse for him because he must be more ... simple minded, as he lost.
Instead "Thanks", or "Thanks for playing" or "Handshake" makes no assumptions about his game and still communicates what you want to say.
That is what i would suggest, but lets not take it too serious. I care much less for it than my exaggerated words suggested.
Some reasons why "good game" is not gentleman style in my opinion:
1) If you tell him "gg", you deny his possible pain. Why should he feel pain, as he has just experienced something "good"?
2) Knowing that he is currently too weak for a decent discussion, you express an 0-8-15 opinion about this game. And it is a wrong opinion. He lost, so he didnt make good moves, so the game was not good. Not for him.
3) By not noting this, you show an absence of compassion, and thus shows some form of ... mental simplicity. That makes it worse for him because he must be more ... simple minded, as he lost.
Instead "Thanks", or "Thanks for playing" or "Handshake" makes no assumptions about his game and still communicates what you want to say.
That is what i would suggest, but lets not take it too serious. I care much less for it than my exaggerated words suggested.
In the end it doesn't matter, as long as you say something some people will get offended.
Just be yourself and the people who appreciate your concern and your mentality will stay to speak with you.
Don't try to adhere to some kind of etiquette just because you are afraid you will hurt someone feelings or some people will see you badly.
For the GG part it's good to know the meaning behind it, but it doesn't matter really.
Just be yourself and the people who appreciate your concern and your mentality will stay to speak with you.
Don't try to adhere to some kind of etiquette just because you are afraid you will hurt someone feelings or some people will see you badly.
For the GG part it's good to know the meaning behind it, but it doesn't matter really.
@DerNickWarNochFrei
"Thanks" can be misinterpreted in the same way as "good game".
After a completely one sided game, it could realistically be read as "thanks ... for giving me points for free, pushover" (and what other benefit did you get out of the game that you could be thankful for?).
On the other hand, "He lost, so he didnt make good moves, so the game was not good." is not a valid deduction. Games can be fun for both parties, winner and loser - if both feel that they had a worthy opponent and a challenge in which both could have come out on top. Of course this doesn't work for sore losers, but then they are the problem, not you.
"Thanks" can be misinterpreted in the same way as "good game".
After a completely one sided game, it could realistically be read as "thanks ... for giving me points for free, pushover" (and what other benefit did you get out of the game that you could be thankful for?).
On the other hand, "He lost, so he didnt make good moves, so the game was not good." is not a valid deduction. Games can be fun for both parties, winner and loser - if both feel that they had a worthy opponent and a challenge in which both could have come out on top. Of course this doesn't work for sore losers, but then they are the problem, not you.
Guys, you compare it with otb chess. Good, but the whole non-verbal part is missing, e.g. the gesticulation. So tbe main part in a psychological sense is lacking. It doesn’t count what you intend to say rather what your opponent will understand.
Don’t say anything if you win!
I mean it is a recommendation. If you come too early you can say to your girl-friend „gg“. If you feel entitled to do so, go ahead! It‘s not my mug of German beer.
Don’t say anything if you win!
I mean it is a recommendation. If you come too early you can say to your girl-friend „gg“. If you feel entitled to do so, go ahead! It‘s not my mug of German beer.
@ProfDrHack
"Games can be fun for both parties, winner and loser - if both feel that they had a worthy opponent and a challenge in which both could have come out on top."
If that is the case a "Good Game", especially after a draw, can be appropriate.
But if the opp loses, especially if it is from a won position, then "Good Game" sounds arrogant.
In that case "i was lucky" is more appropriate.
"Games can be fun for both parties, winner and loser - if both feel that they had a worthy opponent and a challenge in which both could have come out on top."
If that is the case a "Good Game", especially after a draw, can be appropriate.
But if the opp loses, especially if it is from a won position, then "Good Game" sounds arrogant.
In that case "i was lucky" is more appropriate.
i just got startled to the mark by accidently watching a gruesome nazi movie trailer. I guess this is Karmas answer to my cruel words here. I apologize if annoyed some people here, especially @spaitz . I need to learn to talk in a more civilized manner.
I generally say 'thank you' after the game, regardless of outcome. If I felt the game was a good one, as in, well-fought on both sides, ups and downs, trading initiative, etc, then I will say good game; however, if I flagged an opponent who was overwhelmingly ahead on material, I would say thanks rather than good game. This is not meant as advice, just as a description of what I do after games.
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I remember that when I played at „First Saturday“ in Budapest/HUN that is is usual there that the loser says „köszönöm“ (TY).
This is probably innocuous.
Remember: the loser!
This is probably innocuous.
Remember: the loser!
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