Claiming a dead draw

@RegisterMeAlready Black cannot play forever if you use the 50 moves rule. And, the chess software defining the rules on this and any online chess platform is not an "arbiter" and cannot make the judgement you fall back to.

That's all.

You agreed to play with a clock, what is the point in complaining afterwards til the cows go home? Complain yourself for that!

Or just use increment next time.

This „dead draw“ is easy to lose, isn‘t it? Starting from the final position (edit: of the given variation):
no you have no prove that you wouldn’t have played:



What‘s all the fuzz about?

@yunuz yes, I meant playing for what seems like forever. I'm aware of the 50 move rule and I get the abiter thing, as previous posts pointed out. Initially I was comparing it to the rules I had seen in tournaments, but others pointed out that we need an arbiter for that kind of judgment.

@Sarg0n I was never complaining. And I rested my case when someone pointed out the arbiter issue. In real life I could've claimed a draw in the end position, and it would've been accepted by the referee. Even a half -second increment would've been enough to prevent time loss in this game. My las few messages were addressed to YGNR for his attitude. NOT COMPLAINING.

#46.

Rather not. Forget it simply, ok?

If the old rules apply they are not valid in Blitz and Rapid, moreover an arbiter can decide to play on.

New rules:

III.2.1
The Guidelines below concerning the final period of the game including Quickplay Finishes, shall only be used at an event if their use has been announced beforehand.

Which is practically always the likely case, ie they are not in use. In Blitz never ever.

Summa summarum: in virtually every case: White loses

@registermealready

No, that is just complaining and later rationalization.

You were outplayed fair and square

@RegisterMeAlready

Now I’m confused. You post that you want to claim a draw. I say I sympathize with you and you say it’s a mate in 23. So you invalidated you original point. The game is not a draw it’s a mate in 23. But you lost on time in spite of having seen a mate in 23.

@inmaniac this game was played with zero time increment. There's a rule that says when you lose on time in such time controls, if you can provide a non-losing strategy in the final position, or if your opponent has no way of improving their position, you can claim a draw by demonstrating you strategy to the arbiter. This way you avoid the fate of losing on time.

From a purely chess perspective, the game is not a draw, since white is winning. But if white chooses to defend passively, black has no way to make progress. By demonstrating this, I would've been able to claim a draw in real life, but unfortunately we don't have readily available arbiters here on lichess.

@RegisterMeAlready Would you be so kind to point us to this rule?