@Buny77 said in #209:
> To me a trans female is obviously female and is very welcome to play in Women's Tournaments and should be supported and very welcomed:)) Which the majority of female player do:))))
Yea I get that, I meant how would QQ's sisters know?
There's things like facial feminization surgery and other things that people can do to change their face - making it impossible to tell any difference - and since no one's going to tell anyone "I'm a trans women" before playing - one wouldn't be able to be uncomfortable.
@QuarterQuell said in #202:
> As a Christian I personally am against the trans movement. That does not mean I am anti LGBTQ (plus some) on a personal level I believe trans genderism is wrong based off me observing and living by the Bible. [...]
I don't share your religion but I can respect it.
Would you acknowledge, though, that you have to pick and choose which parts of the Bible are relevant and which you should ignore as not part of modern life?
I guess you're probably aware of the famous "open letter to Dr. Laura Schlesinger" from about two decades ago. "Dr. Laura" had condemned homosexuality on the basis of the Bible, but the response in the open letter would be just as appropriate as if she had been condemning the "trans movement" (your words) on that basis too.
The famous funny letter is all over the internet, but specially for you here it is posted on a website of a Christian church, one of those Christian ministries which does manage to distinguish the good humanitarian parts of the Bible from the appalling parts.
http://www.stpaulsepiscopalbakersfield.org/uploads/6/6/9/0/6690860/a_letter_to_dr_laura.pdf @Brian-E said in #212:
> I don't share your religion but I can respect it.
>
> Would you acknowledge, though, that you have to pick and choose which parts of the Bible are relevant and which you should ignore as not part of modern life?
>
> I guess you're probably aware of the famous "open letter to Dr. Laura Schlesinger" from about two decades ago. "Dr. Laura" had condemned homosexuality on the basis of the Bible, but the response in the open letter would be just as appropriate as if she had been condemning the "trans movement" (your words) on that basis too.
>
> The famous funny letter is all over the internet, but specially for you here it is posted on a website of a Christian church, one of those Christian ministries which does manage to distinguish the good humanitarian parts of the Bible from the appalling parts.
>
http://www.stpaulsepiscopalbakersfield.org/uploads/6/6/9/0/6690860/a_letter_to_dr_laura.pdfBrilliant!! ROFL!! Thank you.
Lol I don't know why but the link won't open XD do you mind sending it to me in pms? Maybe it will work there.
"Would you acknowledge, though, that you have to pick and choose which parts of the Bible are relevant and which you should ignore as not part of modern life?"
I would not, most Christians would not. The Bible is God's complete and perfect word. Relevant forever and ever. That is our belief, I can go more in depth about that if you want but thats the gist of it.
The text of the open letter is almost certainly not under copyright laws because it was written anonymously and has been copied all over the place in the intervening 20 years. So I'll paste it here:
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law.
I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I
can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. ... End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Law and how to
follow them.
1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord --
Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite
them?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age,
what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual
uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take
offence.
4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are
purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not
Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. The passage clearly
states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a
lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there “degrees” of
abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to
admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room
here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even
though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still
play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as
does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend).
He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16). Couldn't we just burn them to death
at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such
matters, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fan,
Anonymous
This may take me a few days to make my full reply but I assure you all of that can be negated by scripture as most of it is taken out of context. I dont find it offensive btw rather funny in an ironic way
@QuarterQuell said in #214:
> Lol I don't know why but the link won't open XD do you mind sending it to me in pms? Maybe it will work there.
>
> "Would you acknowledge, though, that you have to pick and choose which parts of the Bible are relevant and which you should ignore as not part of modern life?"
>
> I would not, most Christians would not. The Bible is God's complete and perfect word. Relevant forever and ever. That is our belief, I can go more in depth about that if you want but thats the gist of it.
Out of interest what are your views on the Quran, for example? Other religious beliefs??
Christians do not recognize the Quran as God's word, it is not in my belief that it is. But I'm not going to sit here and discredit someone else religion in a forum about trans players in chess. Its just too off topic. Feel free to pm me about it though
@Brian-E said in #215:
> The text of the open letter is almost certainly not under copyright laws because it was written anonymously and has been copied all over the place in the intervening 20 years. So I'll paste it here:
>
> Dear Dr. Laura:
Much of this was either taken out of context or is from the Old Testament *Old law. It states in the New Testament (NT) that any old law that we we're under had passed away.
you might be think --->
Now previously I said that Gods word is perfect and timeless, and always relevant and it is. But now QQ is saying that parts of the Bible aren't relevant and we get to pick and choose what to believe.
That is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the lord said that we no longer live under the old law, because Jesus Christ died for you and I.
I will cement what I have said by quoting a bible verse about this exact topic.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 17 God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.
@QuarterQuell said in #218:
> Christians do not recognize the Quran as God's word, it is not in my belief that it is. But I'm not going to sit here and discredit someone else religion in a forum about trans players in chess. Its just too off topic. Feel free to pm me about it though
But it is related!! I happen to be an atheist!! But respect individuals rights to believe in a god as long as it's not used to have any hatred against other peoples' rights/lives and isn't used as an excuse to attack peoples' sexual identity!! eg Transgender/gay
But as a believer in your own god you really need to understand other religions belief in their own god. Eg Islam/Hindu/Buddism/Paganism to name a few!!!!
Just my opinion for what it's worth:))
