@Under-the-radar said in #22:
> I don't know what you smoked, but I want some too. No, you did not reply to my question, which was not about the Brits making a double or triple promise.
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I'm always smoking green tea. I assumed that would be pretty obvious by my handle, no? ;)
But by your reply, you seem to be smoking something stronger. Probably that deeper green. What part of ">I already said that it would be wrong both ways." do you not understand? ;)
The Britain part is a new thought. If you aren't familiar with me when I write I tend to go many places at once and separate things by paragraphs. Hence new paragraph = unrelated.
> Or, as our friend
@OctoPinky pointed out, do you think Ukraininans go "too far" when they topple a statue of Lenin? .
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False equivalency. Balfour was actually a pretty decent guy, even if he did end up screwing everyone up - he still protected people's rights.
The main reason you got a Jewish explosion in the population wasn't because of him. It was because of the Holocaust - and the British did curb immigration, even then. So there's that.
> I am saying "Not all X are Y". You are replying "Z is X so according to you Z is not Y". (with X=paint on canvas, Y=art, Z=Mona Lisa). That's a logical fallacy.
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> Obviously you can share whatever you want. We all have biases, and there is nothing wrong with having biases. But would you have felt compelled to share this story if it was about Ukrainians toppling a statue of Lenin? Or about Israeli soldiers sharing pictures on social medias, showing toys and female underwears they found in homes of Gaza they invaded? I don't think so.
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> We all have biases, but honesty is acknowledging one's own biases.
You're using multiple logical fallacies here, and it's kind of odd you don't realize so. For one, you're using a false comparison fallacy - where Israel must equal Russia and Ukraine must equal Palestine.
It doesn't work like that. False equivalency leads to problems like these.
And as for the IDF, did I ever say that it's right? Obviously it would be wrong.
This was never about Israel, or Palestine. And you could have made it so. You could have sat there, realized that I never said anything of the sort. My bias is Israel, that is clear from my flag. I never said it wasn't. But just because I fly the Israel flag, do I now have to be a hater of all Palestinians that wants them all to die? Do I have to be so one-sided I can't see my own side's faults? You see what's going on here? just because a is true, doesn't mean b is too all the way to z. That's the slippery slope fallacy. (And actually, I've been told I'm pro-Palestine more than once! I didn't know saying people deserve a home was pro-Palestine. But I digress.)
Honesty is not being blinded by the fact that my own political views might not match up with yours perfectly - but that doesn't mean I'm going to force them on everyone. In my original post and in my subsequent replies to you, I have made it very clear that my intentions were purely to see a discussion on protests, violent and nonviolent. I would hope that people would realize that we can have discussions without this sort of thing.
If I wanted to have a discussion on Palestine, I would start a new topic, preferably with some number-crunching. Some talk about Hamas. Or the PA. Or anything. But have I? No? Then don't make things out of where there are no things. Funny to tell me to acknowledge a bias that I have, countless times - including through my flag - while there is a clear bias in skipping over entire sentences of my writing, don't you think? ;)
From all the people that have talked to me in DMs, both here and elsewhere on this war - the majority are pro-Palestine. Out of all of them, I find some to be very respectful - and I appreciate them for that! But then there's the people that are a bit more colorful. I don't want this discussion to turn into those sorts of things. If we can't talk about protest without the war then my bad, wrong example - why don't I find us a different example?
I suppose you'd like talking about, I dunno, January 6th instead? ;)
