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The message of Christ

Mathew 10:34-39:

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--- a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.

“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it" --- Jesus Christ
Only wanted to say, that there is an angel with a sword in flame. Not Jesus Christ.
@SteveWanton said in #6:
> Hey, stupid (KNIGHT_c4). What is this talk?
@SteveWanton said in #7:
> Sword of Michael. You want to kidding about, KNIGHT_c4?
@SteveWanton said in #8:
> How old are you?

You are sooo right! One should read the rules some bronze-age racists put together only selectively so that the "religion of peace and loving" clichè can be maintained and foremost, you should demean all who quote your own "holy book" verbatim so as to show how "peaceful" this superstition really is. After all, it is the one true word from an all-mighty and all-knowing god who calls whales fish and bats birds.

You (and by that i mean your fellow xtians as well as you personally) have started more wars and caused more victims than any other organisation in the world. Sometimes you killed people even over disputes about so realistic questions like how many angels are able to sit on the tip of a needle. Just like you started a flame war only because someone quoted the bible verbatim.

Go away! And kindly take your bullshit with you!
Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. ~ John 6:56
@SteveWanton said in #12:
> Only wanted to say, that there is an angel with a sword in flame. Not Jesus Christ.

Which is, as to be expected, utter nonsense: the part where Jesus speaks directly to his disciples starts at Matthew 10:5 with the words:

> These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do [...]"

And from then on it is purportedly his (Jesus) own words. Now, of course the whole story is made up and there was (most probably, current state of critical history) no real historical Jesus and even if there were the author of Matthew wouldn't and couldn't have known any direct quotes because the whole book was concocted ~80 AD at the earliest in Rome. The first historical mentioning of any written books about Jesus comes from bishop Pappias of Hierapolis ~144 AD - who says he prefers the oral tradition over those written texts.

At the end of the first century AD Matthew was the earliest, btw.. Mark and Luke were written already in the second century and John most probably at the end of the second/beginning of third century, Jesus, by then, was as much a historical person as King Arthur, Lancelot and other famous (but invented) figures were.
If I play my guitar world vanishes and time do not see what i am doing.
Nothing is hard or important to do. Just like I am the song playing the guitar.
@Nomen-Nonatur said in #17:
> Which is, as to be expected, utter nonsense: the part where Jesus speaks directly to his disciples starts at Matthew 10:5 with the words:
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> And from then on it is purportedly his (Jesus) own words. Now, of course the whole story is made up and there was (most probably, current state of critical history) no real historical Jesus and even if there were the author of Matthew wouldn't and couldn't have known any direct quotes because the whole book was concocted ~80 AD at the earliest in Rome. The first historical mentioning of any written books about Jesus comes from bishop Pappias of Hierapolis ~144 AD - who says he prefers the oral tradition over those written texts.
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> At the end of the first century AD Matthew was the earliest, btw.. Mark and Luke were written already in the second century and John most probably at the end of the second/beginning of third century, Jesus, by then, was as much a historical person as King Arthur, Lancelot and other famous (but invented) figures were.
There are more sources for Jesus then Julius Caesar, including contemporaries who had no ulterior motive for his existence. The question is not whether he existed, but if he was truly theson of god
@Nomen-Nonatur said in #17:
> Which is, as to be expected, utter nonsense: the part where Jesus speaks directly to his disciples starts at Matthew 10:5 with the words:
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> And from then on it is purportedly his (Jesus) own words. Now, of course the whole story is made up and there was (most probably, current state of critical history) no real historical Jesus and even if there were the author of Matthew wouldn't and couldn't have known any direct quotes because the whole book was concocted ~80 AD at the earliest in Rome. The first historical mentioning of any written books about Jesus comes from bishop Pappias of Hierapolis ~144 AD - who says he prefers the oral tradition over those written texts.
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> At the end of the first century AD Matthew was the earliest, btw.. Mark and Luke were written already in the second century and John most probably at the end of the second/beginning of third century, Jesus, by then, was as much a historical person as King Arthur, Lancelot and other famous (but invented) figures were.

Something happened to Rick Astley too. And Chuck Norris. And d'Artagnan.
If you look at the history like you describe it, it's hard to imagine how christianity could ever have become such a big thing. Even if there was an actual person at the source of it all, what good could it possibly do? We got 2 warridden millennia, which we would have had anyway, and even now, here, inside this thread, it only manages to divide, rather than unite.

I'll never understand and I'll always remain suspicious of stuff like this. No good will ever come of it. And, the opposite of good, well, there's lots of examples for that. Yea I know. I must be doomed.
For that, either implicitly or explicitly, would be christianity's perpetual reply.

Is not.
Is too!
Is not!
Is too!

That's all it ever becomes, imo.
And what's a messiah anyway?
Will he come and wave a wand around?

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