Rating the pain level of piano pieces

@greenteakitten said in #1:

Clementi Op. 36 No. 3 - 0/10
PSA: The third movement only sounds good Presto if you play it well fast. Listen here

Schubert E-flat Impromptu - 2/10
It's not hard at all notes wise but it does take a bit of stamina to keep the triplets going for so long! Listen here

Haydn D Major Concerto - 3/10
Easy to learn, harder to play well. Still one of the easiest piano concertos though. 4/10 if you have to play it for a competition. Listen here

Chopin Aeolian Harp Etude - 3/10
5-6 polyrhythm is annoying. It's also a bit hard to voice while still making the whole thing light and airy. Listen here

Chopin Fantasie-Impromptu - 9.5/10
The offbeat accents, polyrhythm, speed, awkward turns...AAAAAAA Listen here

Lizst Erlkonig - 15/10
Fast, repeated octaves for a piece with a run length way too long for regular stamina? And still having to shape and phrase the whole thing? Why, Lizst? WHY? Listen here

Send me more sheet music to rate and/or drop your own takes below! Keep in mind I haven't played all of these pieces haha so I may be wrong on some :)

carol of the bells- 99999899999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999/10
beautiful music, perfect rhythm and lovely lyrics. to top it all off, the violin is legendary

@EdwardChan6143Chess said in #12:

symphony no. 5 Beethoven,flight of the bumblebee

NO YOU DID IT WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIDIES

but other wise ... 85/100
very fast rhythm makes notes a blur but it sounds more like a lot of random notes plus WHY IS THERE A BOWLING ALLEY NOISE IN BETWEEN LIKE WHY and the song is easily ruin able (already done )

Never gonna give you up:
Rickroll/10 or RickAstley/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKeqaDSjy98

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@CSKA_Moscou said in #16:

I apologize for the great confusion I have caused between the two works. And thank for the clarification!

I'm afraid the confusion persists

I sometimes confuse Clara Wieck Piano Concerto with the one from Robert Schumann (same tonality in A minor, very similar structure

I cannot agree with that statement. What structure? I remember R. Schumann well enough, and I even downloaded Clara's score because I couldn't figure out what you could possibly have meant by "similiar structure", and I still can't after 2 minutes of staring at it.

Clara 1st mvt: the brilliant style, classical approach to tempo, pianistically reminiscent of very young Chopin, simpler than Hummel, denser than Moscheles, Kalkbrenner comes to mind, or Henselt... Working with a simple motivic cell, embelishing rather than developing... Conventional orchestral accompaniment...

Robert 1st: a romantic fantasy, 10 or so tempo changes, contrasting sections, long melodies, a big cadenza, more ambitious, symphonic writing, both as tutti and in mixing orchestral textures with solo. Piano writing in his own style, although surprisingly user-friendly compared to his other pieces

Clara 2nd: operatic aria for piano, later switch to cello
Robert 2nd: goofy intermezzo, exchanging short phrases between solo and orchestra, then the most wonderful dreamy bit...

Bottom line: they have nothing in common. There are no corresponding sections between the two pieces. Different motivic material, different compositional techniques and general construction ideas.

but now the interesting part:

a criticism particularly regarding the handling of tempi, which are rather fast for my taste, and the relationship to the work, since they choose to emphasize the virtuosic and technical aspects in a headlong rush that is more reminiscent of Florestan than Eusebius, while Robert Schumann probably hoped that his work will be performed and understood with this duality.

This resulted in some certainly memorable versions, but ones lacking a bit that historical, almost mystical musicality in relation to the Schumanns' connection with literature (which is also true for the Clara concerto).

I'm very curious about all that, because I've heard both Yuja Wang and Khatia Buniatishvili play Schumann, and I think they produce beautiful, lyrical, and exciting performances and maintain extremely high artistic standards. I did not find anything that might be even remotely controversial or questionable in terms of interpretation, academic correctness, or historical considerations. I very much agree with their tempi, although these may vary significantly in different acoustics. To the best of my understanding, they follow the sheet music to the letter and tastefully bring the score to life with their personalities and skills.

Exactly, which tempi do you consider too fast? What fragments lack "mystical musicality", because of the technical aspects or a headlong rush? How would you play instead? Which bars are particularly deficient in appreciation of "Schumann's connection with literature"?

Here is the full score and reduction, whichever you prefer https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto,Op.54(Schumann,_Robert)

I await your expertise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jbHbDena_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWDrJT0s1s8&list=RDfWDrJT0s1s8&start_radio=1

@greenteakitten said in #1:

Clementi Op. 36 No. 3 - 0/10
PSA: The third movement only sounds good Presto if you play it well fast. Listen here

Schubert E-flat Impromptu - 2/10
It's not hard at all notes wise but it does take a bit of stamina to keep the triplets going for so long! Listen here

Haydn D Major Concerto - 3/10
Easy to learn, harder to play well. Still one of the easiest piano concertos though. 4/10 if you have to play it for a competition. Listen here

Chopin Aeolian Harp Etude - 3/10
5-6 polyrhythm is annoying. It's also a bit hard to voice while still making the whole thing light and airy. Listen here

Chopin Fantasie-Impromptu - 9.5/10
The offbeat accents, polyrhythm, speed, awkward turns...AAAAAAA Listen here

Lizst Erlkonig - 15/10
Fast, repeated octaves for a piece with a run length way too long for regular stamina? And still having to shape and phrase the whole thing? Why, Lizst? WHY? Listen here

Send me more sheet music to rate and/or drop your own takes below! Keep in mind I haven't played all of these pieces haha so I may be wrong on some :)

Have you ever tried Scriabin? I had fun with his tonalities in this piece

https://youtu.be/JE-riazUvJE?list=RDJE-riazUvJE

@salmon_rushdie

Wow, have you actually learned the 7th? Congratulations, that's a good one, nice.

11:38 everyone's favorite chord, the cursed tower of nonsense

@MusicGarlic said in #28:

@salmon_rushdie

Wow, have you actually learned the 7th? Congratulations, that's a good one, nice.

11:38 everyone's favorite chord, the cursed tower of nonsense

I don't/can't play it well by any means, I learned what made it 'sound like it sounds' more than anything so I could incorporate it into my own playing

I'm impressed with the musical cognoscenti of Vanuatu!

Melanesia means music, apparently!