Chess and Science Fiction: How do you imagine chess 100 years from now? • page 2/3 • Off-Topic Discussion • lichess.org

Imagine a new way to play chess where the clock is replaced by a dice. At the start of each turn, players roll the dice to determine how many positions the AI will present. A roll of 1 shows two possible chess position, a roll of 2 presents four positions, and a roll of 6 gives the player 12 different positions. Players have a set time limit of 20 seconds per move. The player is not told which of the positions is best. If they don’t make a decision in time, the AI will pick the worst one, forcing the player to pick one.

Chess becomes a smart multiple choice TV show game. Players are picking from chess positions. The randomness of the dice keeps each game unique. Chess Feud becomes accessible for all to enjoy.

https://googlefeud.com/

Imagine a new way to play chess where the clock is replaced by a dice. At the start of each turn, players roll the dice to determine how many positions the AI will present. A roll of 1 shows two possible chess position, a roll of 2 presents four positions, and a roll of 6 gives the player 12 different positions. Players have a set time limit of 20 seconds per move. The player is not told which of the positions is best. If they don’t make a decision in time, the AI will pick the worst one, forcing the player to pick one. Chess becomes a smart multiple choice TV show game. Players are picking from chess positions. The randomness of the dice keeps each game unique. Chess Feud becomes accessible for all to enjoy. https://googlefeud.com/

Mrchess78

#12

@Toscani said in #11:

Imagine a new way to play chess where the clock is replaced by a dice. At the start of each turn, players roll the dice to determine how many positions the AI will present. A roll of 1 shows two possible chess position, a roll of 2 presents four positions, and a roll of 6 gives the player 12 different positions. Players have a set time limit of 10 seconds per position shown. So, if 3 positions are presented, the player has 30 seconds to pick one. The player is not told which of the 3 is best. If they don’t make a decision in time, the AI will pick the worst one, forcing the player to pick one.

Chess becomes a smart multiple choice TV show game. Players are picking from chess positions. The randomness of the dice keeps each game unique. Chess Feud becomes accessible for all to enjoy.

googlefeud.com/

"The Hunger Chess games" :).

@Toscani said in #11: > Imagine a new way to play chess where the clock is replaced by a dice. At the start of each turn, players roll the dice to determine how many positions the AI will present. A roll of 1 shows two possible chess position, a roll of 2 presents four positions, and a roll of 6 gives the player 12 different positions. Players have a set time limit of 10 seconds per position shown. So, if 3 positions are presented, the player has 30 seconds to pick one. The player is not told which of the 3 is best. If they don’t make a decision in time, the AI will pick the worst one, forcing the player to pick one. > > Chess becomes a smart multiple choice TV show game. Players are picking from chess positions. The randomness of the dice keeps each game unique. Chess Feud becomes accessible for all to enjoy. > > googlefeud.com/ "The Hunger Chess games" :).

Toscani

edited

#13

I modified it. Now there is two versions. Every time I see someone quoting what is already there, I'll modify it again. LOL

The_Merry_Chesster

#14

Great question, and although I can't think of anything right now I find this combination of a song from 1969 and a film from 1927 to be fitting and possibly inspiring for the topic, Zager and Evan's "In The Year 2525" combined with Fritz Lang's "Metropolis": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA

HerkyHawkeye

#15

Chess will be long forgotten since The Firm has solved the game with its super intelligence. However, one afternoon, a solitary sanitation worker (those that gather and properly dispose of decades of space trash) finds a very old, partial copy of Chess Life......

Fade out to music of Zager and Evans.....

Chess will be long forgotten since The Firm has solved the game with its super intelligence. However, one afternoon, a solitary sanitation worker (those that gather and properly dispose of decades of space trash) finds a very old, partial copy of Chess Life...... Fade out to music of Zager and Evans.....

Zane2007

#16

@HerkyHawkeye said in #15:

Chess will be long forgotten since The Firm has solved the game with its super intelligence. However, one afternoon, a solitary sanitation worker (those that gather and properly dispose of decades of space trash) finds a very old, partial copy of Chess Life......

I love this idea!

Maybe the sanitation worker becomes obsessed with deciphering the strange "ancient battle" described in the magazine.
Without full rules, they reinvent chess based on instinct — creating a new version that's even deeper and more mysterious than the original.

One day, The Firm detects this new game... and realizes it's something their superintelligence can't fully predict.

The cycle begins again.

@HerkyHawkeye said in #15: > Chess will be long forgotten since The Firm has solved the game with its super intelligence. However, one afternoon, a solitary sanitation worker (those that gather and properly dispose of decades of space trash) finds a very old, partial copy of Chess Life...... > I love this idea! Maybe the sanitation worker becomes obsessed with deciphering the strange "ancient battle" described in the magazine. Without full rules, they reinvent chess based on instinct — creating a new version that's even deeper and more mysterious than the original. One day, The Firm detects this new game... and realizes it's something their superintelligence can't fully predict. The cycle begins again.

CSKA_Moscou

#17

I remain quite realistic: 100 years ago, chess was the same as what we play today, the difference is that today there is internet, more competitions, better established titles... but the basic rules have not evolved much for centuries. So I don't see why this should change in 100 years. Artificial intelligence is just a fad, people will do without chatgpt the same way they did without Spinners.

I think AI will only partially replace human work and in 50 or 100 years, we will laugh at the Terminator movies, because reality will be closer to Blade Runner. Humans will not have colonized Mars because it will be too expensive, and will only send a handful of astronauts to study the planet. While we, on Earth, will see a clickbait article written by artificial intelligence on a paper-thin smartphone, stating: "You'll never believe this, scientists have discovered that Mars cannot be inhabited!"

Fashion? Decorative cybernetic implants that will replace tattoos.

Sports? There will be teams that will no longer represent cities but brands, for example, FC Louis Vuitton Paris, Rapid Samsung London... Artificial intelligence will help referees make VAR decisions and ensure stadium security.

Food? There will be a quota per person for eating meat or fish, and exemptions. But the majority of the population will no longer be able to eat meat or fish and will instead eat vegetarian meals produced in huge hydroponic farms that recycle water in innovative ways.

No flying cars, but nuclear-powered cars or other sophisticated electric models that will no longer need to be recharged. No giant space station to accommodate humanity, but city-like buildings several kilometers long, like Le Corbusier's Radiant City, with several floors accessible to cars.

Space? A space probe with AI functions will surpass Voyager 2, while thousands of autonomous ships with scientific instruments will carry humanity's message of peace to the four corners of the galaxy, only for humanity to be contaminated by a disease.

Chess? They won't change

I remain quite realistic: 100 years ago, chess was the same as what we play today, the difference is that today there is internet, more competitions, better established titles... but the basic rules have not evolved much for centuries. So I don't see why this should change in 100 years. Artificial intelligence is just a fad, people will do without chatgpt the same way they did without Spinners. I think AI will only partially replace human work and in 50 or 100 years, we will laugh at the Terminator movies, because reality will be closer to Blade Runner. Humans will not have colonized Mars because it will be too expensive, and will only send a handful of astronauts to study the planet. While we, on Earth, will see a clickbait article written by artificial intelligence on a paper-thin smartphone, stating: "You'll never believe this, scientists have discovered that Mars cannot be inhabited!" Fashion? Decorative cybernetic implants that will replace tattoos. Sports? There will be teams that will no longer represent cities but brands, for example, FC Louis Vuitton Paris, Rapid Samsung London... Artificial intelligence will help referees make VAR decisions and ensure stadium security. Food? There will be a quota per person for eating meat or fish, and exemptions. But the majority of the population will no longer be able to eat meat or fish and will instead eat vegetarian meals produced in huge hydroponic farms that recycle water in innovative ways. No flying cars, but nuclear-powered cars or other sophisticated electric models that will no longer need to be recharged. No giant space station to accommodate humanity, but city-like buildings several kilometers long, like Le Corbusier's Radiant City, with several floors accessible to cars. Space? A space probe with AI functions will surpass Voyager 2, while thousands of autonomous ships with scientific instruments will carry humanity's message of peace to the four corners of the galaxy, only for humanity to be contaminated by a disease. Chess? They won't change

HerkyHawkeye

#18

The Firm’s Ministry of Order is authorized to search and confiscate all unapproved property. Upon returning from a galactic mining tour, all workers are to be examined for possible contamination. Worker Unit #2125-000437 hurried hides the remnant of The Old Earth document. Unsure of what he is concealing, one thing is known: Worker #2125-000437 faces certain termination for a violation of the Terms of Service. One does not hide property from The Ministry of Order.

@Zane2007

The Firm’s Ministry of Order is authorized to search and confiscate all unapproved property. Upon returning from a galactic mining tour, all workers are to be examined for possible contamination. Worker Unit #2125-000437 hurried hides the remnant of The Old Earth document. Unsure of what he is concealing, one thing is known: Worker #2125-000437 faces certain termination for a violation of the Terms of Service. One does not hide property from The Ministry of Order. @Zane2007

Lidlus

#19

Im glad you guys are thinking about this kind of stuff. I do a lot.

I am a coder and game designer and am working on pretty much most of what you have brought up. Not the rom con stuff tho. So i will try and answer some of that.

Will we play on 3D holographic boards? - Yes , probably more of an AR kind of vibe tho. Classic chess will still be king of OTB tho. But you will be so plugged into AI and assistants that you will likely get prompted to a depth of around 50 moves. Even modes like Fog of war will be solved by your gadgets.
Will new types of pieces or dimensions exist? - There are so many fairy pieces , this very minute ser! Its hard to shake a stick at them! Will people get over the knight fetish that they seem to be perverted by, idk. ( if you didn't know most "new" pieces are just + a knights moves ) That said there are still some that have not been adopted or created eg. A piece that moves like a rook but takes like a bishop. - name it if you want.
In terms of dimensions ; well - I envision chess being used a form of encryption and random proof generation ; imagine if you will a 8x8x8 cube with 2 players on each side of the cube ( 12 players ) . They will have asymmetric loadouts , can form alliances and break them and the goal is to be the last team of 2 standing. Of course , there could be other modes eg King of the 3d Hill or Vampire and the point of this is just to watch AI move their pieces around in a dance of sheer dimensional brawn and pretty lights for us mere humans but we could still play and in some modes would still have the advantage.
Will humans still be the best players... or will we just spectate AI battles? - We aren't the best players now. But we can still beat the AI in rather niche more divergent and altogether more important modes.
Mars ? The Moon. - If we ever get there. I think as a joke we should send the next probe that leaves the solar system a chess programme and have it play chess as it flies out into space. Just for the craziness of playing postal chess with an ever increasing delay.

Im no time traveller. But ; pretty sure that chess will stay pretty much like it is now for another 100 years. I will of course try my hardest to bring it into the 21 century.

Im glad you guys are thinking about this kind of stuff. I do a lot. I am a coder and game designer and am working on pretty much most of what you have brought up. Not the rom con stuff tho. So i will try and answer some of that. 1. Will we play on 3D holographic boards? - Yes , probably more of an AR kind of vibe tho. Classic chess will still be king of OTB tho. But you will be so plugged into AI and assistants that you will likely get prompted to a depth of around 50 moves. Even modes like Fog of war will be solved by your gadgets. 2. Will new types of pieces or dimensions exist? - There are so many fairy pieces , this very minute ser! Its hard to shake a stick at them! Will people get over the knight fetish that they seem to be perverted by, idk. ( if you didn't know most "new" pieces are just + a knights moves ) That said there are still some that have not been adopted or created eg. A piece that moves like a rook but takes like a bishop. - name it if you want. In terms of dimensions ; well - I envision chess being used a form of encryption and random proof generation ; imagine if you will a 8x8x8 cube with 2 players on each side of the cube ( 12 players ) . They will have asymmetric loadouts , can form alliances and break them and the goal is to be the last team of 2 standing. Of course , there could be other modes eg King of the 3d Hill or Vampire and the point of this is just to watch AI move their pieces around in a dance of sheer dimensional brawn and pretty lights for us mere humans but we could still play and in some modes would still have the advantage. 3. Will humans still be the best players... or will we just spectate AI battles? - We aren't the best players now. But we can still beat the AI in rather niche more divergent and altogether more important modes. 4. Mars ? The Moon. - If we ever get there. I think as a joke we should send the next probe that leaves the solar system a chess programme and have it play chess as it flies out into space. Just for the craziness of playing postal chess with an ever increasing delay. Im no time traveller. But ; pretty sure that chess will stay pretty much like it is now for another 100 years. I will of course try my hardest to bring it into the 21 century.

Zane2007 edited

#20

@CSKA_Moscou said in #17:

I remain quite realistic: 100 years ago, chess was the same as what we play today, the difference is that today there is internet, more competitions, better established titles... but the basic rules have not evolved much for centuries. So I don't see why this should change in 100 years. Artificial intelligence is just a fad, people will do without chatgpt the same way they did without Spinners.

I think AI will only partially replace human work and in 50 or 100 years, we will laugh at the Terminator movies, because reality will be closer to Blade Runner. Humans will not have colonized Mars because it will be too expensive, and will only send a handful of astronauts to study the planet. While we, on Earth, will see a clickbait article written by artificial intelligence on a paper-thin smartphone, stating: "You'll never believe this, scientists have discovered that Mars cannot be inhabited!"

Fashion? Decorative cybernetic implants that will replace tattoos.

Sports? There will be teams that will no longer represent cities but brands, for example, FC Louis Vuitton Paris, Rapid Samsung London... Artificial intelligence will help referees make VAR decisions and ensure stadium security.

Food? There will be a quota per person for eating meat or fish, and exemptions. But the majority of the population will no longer be able to eat meat or fish and will instead eat vegetarian meals produced in huge hydroponic farms that recycle water in innovative ways.

No flying cars, but nuclear-powered cars or other sophisticated electric models that will no longer need to be recharged. No giant space station to accommodate humanity, but city-like buildings several kilometers long, like Le Corbusier's Radiant City, with several floors accessible to cars.

Space? A space probe with AI functions will surpass Voyager 2, while thousands of autonomous ships with scientific instruments will carry humanity's message of peace to the four corners of the galaxy, only for humanity to be contaminated by a disease.

Chess? They won't change

Saying that chess won't change in 100 years because it hasn’t changed much before overlooks one key fact: the pace of change today is exponential, not linear.

In just two decades, online platforms, AI engines, and formats like bullet and Chess960 have already transformed the chess landscape — things unimaginable a century ago.

Artificial intelligence is not a fad like fidget spinners; it's already rewriting how humans live, work, and play — including how we study and understand chess at the highest levels.

If society evolves towards corporate sports, eco-driven lifestyles, and AI integration, expecting chess to remain static sounds more like wishful thinking than realism.

The board may stay 8x8, but the spirit, culture, and meaning of chess will inevitably evolve — whether we are ready for it or not.

@CSKA_Moscou said in #17: > I remain quite realistic: 100 years ago, chess was the same as what we play today, the difference is that today there is internet, more competitions, better established titles... but the basic rules have not evolved much for centuries. So I don't see why this should change in 100 years. Artificial intelligence is just a fad, people will do without chatgpt the same way they did without Spinners. > > I think AI will only partially replace human work and in 50 or 100 years, we will laugh at the Terminator movies, because reality will be closer to Blade Runner. Humans will not have colonized Mars because it will be too expensive, and will only send a handful of astronauts to study the planet. While we, on Earth, will see a clickbait article written by artificial intelligence on a paper-thin smartphone, stating: "You'll never believe this, scientists have discovered that Mars cannot be inhabited!" > > Fashion? Decorative cybernetic implants that will replace tattoos. > > Sports? There will be teams that will no longer represent cities but brands, for example, FC Louis Vuitton Paris, Rapid Samsung London... Artificial intelligence will help referees make VAR decisions and ensure stadium security. > > Food? There will be a quota per person for eating meat or fish, and exemptions. But the majority of the population will no longer be able to eat meat or fish and will instead eat vegetarian meals produced in huge hydroponic farms that recycle water in innovative ways. > > No flying cars, but nuclear-powered cars or other sophisticated electric models that will no longer need to be recharged. No giant space station to accommodate humanity, but city-like buildings several kilometers long, like Le Corbusier's Radiant City, with several floors accessible to cars. > > Space? A space probe with AI functions will surpass Voyager 2, while thousands of autonomous ships with scientific instruments will carry humanity's message of peace to the four corners of the galaxy, only for humanity to be contaminated by a disease. > > Chess? They won't change Saying that chess won't change in 100 years because it hasn’t changed much before overlooks one key fact: the pace of change today is exponential, not linear. In just two decades, online platforms, AI engines, and formats like bullet and Chess960 have already transformed the chess landscape — things unimaginable a century ago. Artificial intelligence is not a fad like fidget spinners; it's already rewriting how humans live, work, and play — including how we study and understand chess at the highest levels. If society evolves towards corporate sports, eco-driven lifestyles, and AI integration, expecting chess to remain static sounds more like wishful thinking than realism. The board may stay 8x8, but the spirit, culture, and meaning of chess will inevitably evolve — whether we are ready for it or not.