Do you believe that non-human animals can have a spiritual life?
Animals certainly deserve one if they don't have one.
I've known some dogs that deserve heaven more than most.
It's one of the reasons dogs should never be eaten. It would almost be like eating somebody's charming old grandmother.
Just say no to spaniel snacks or beagle burgers.
I don't care WHICH fashionable former president might disagree.
Necessary addition:
After substantial observation, I'll say: I don't support eating squirrels, either.
Squirrels are one hell of a lot smarter than many graduates. They deserve every unsalted peanut I give them.
@Jchess202 said in #1:
> Do you believe that non-human animals can have a spiritual life?
Hmm... I need to confirm that from Praying Mantis
@Jchess202
This is a very interesting issue. Back in the 1970's, before I was born, some members of my family teamed up with some Seventh Day Adventists, Christian Science, members of a Satanic Group, some Unitarians, and some Unity Church members pooling together around $20 million to research giving sentience to other mammals. A biologist isolated a "protein strand" within human DNA that she believed was responsible for giving humans the learning ability to speak. The bible talks about in Psalms and even in Revelation about all of creation crying out and praising God. The obvious question is whether or not this might happen if sentience is given to so called 'lesser' mammals. Anyway, we gave this protein strand to mice and they became about 7x more intelligent. Then we gave it dogs and they became kind of strange. Aside from being seemingly very intelligent and very organized with one another, from what I was told they were extremely non-aggressive towards one another and even smaller things like cats they wouldn't attack, but left one on one with a human was different. There were incidents of attacking humans especially whoever gave them the initial dose and did medical checkups. We tried to do it monkeys as the whole point of this is to make animals like us in terms of sentience to find out if animals can speak directly to demons, or to angels, or see things that we can't. Unfortunately, the US government wouldn't give us the permits, so we went to S Africa, but their cultural minister called it "an abomination to Western Culture" and shut it down. We tried to set something up in what was then the Dem Rep of the Congo, but that country is very chaotic. Unfortunately, we don't know what happens when apes are injected with this "protein strand." I would very much like to know and I don't think result would be like the movie planet of the apes. I think it's very possible that if we could communicate with animals, after giving them sentience, the world might be very surprised regarding the spiritual forces that animals encounter all the time yet can't communicate about.
@Jchess202 said in #1:
> Do you believe that non-human animals can have a spiritual life?
There are evidence that elephants mourn their friends long after their death. I don't know if you would consider this "spiritual" though.
@CountDorio
Yes, I recognize this. I was with a group of freemason scientists from Arkham University and part of an experimental group where we injected controversial DNA-strands into a cuddly dog. At first he just said 'woof woof' and 'bark bark' but we suspected that his cognitive abilities had been greatly enhanced.
Samson (as we called the dog) escaped a day later from our research lab when the security failed due to a weird accident with a rubber band and a particle accelerator and he was never seen again.
However, street dogs in the vicinity of the university began showing strange behavior, as if they were being given orders by an intelligent dog overlord.
One day when we went home after a long day of hard work in the lab, we were surprised to see a statue made of bones in the basketball court. It looked very much like Samson.
A colleague wanted to take a picture of it but a scruffy looking spaniel ran up to him and snatched his mobile phone right out of his hands. Then suddenly we were surrounded by dozens of dogs, growling in a menacing way.
Well needless to say, that was what made me decide to leave the University, I was still traumatized from the weird experiences I had when I assisted doctor Herbert West with his research and this was the last straw.
I haven't spoken to any of my old colleagues since then, it seems they all have died under mysterious circumstances and even weirder : there is no longer a website or a mention on google maps of arkham University.
Sometimes when I'm awake at night (I'm in a mental institution now, it can be noisy) I can still hear Samson say 'bark bark' and it scares the hell out of me.
Help me.
There was a fly in my flat once , I named him Freddy , I put out sugary water for him in a coke lid , the weather outside was cold , not good for flies , anyway I let him out into the cold , he just sat on the window outside. So I opened the door and he flew back into the warm. Freddie the fly was my friend for few days , all life has a soul, and if you need a government grant and research money of hundreds of thousands of pounds to understand that birds fly for fun sometimes then you are an idiot xxx Avatar the film might help explain it to you if you think God is not in every living thing xxx
@Noflaps said in #3:
> Animals certainly deserve one if they don't have one.
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> I've known some dogs that deserve heaven more than most.
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> It's one of the reasons dogs should never be eaten. It would almost be like eating somebody's charming old grandmother.
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> Just say no to spaniel snacks or beagle burgers.
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> I don't care WHICH fashionable former president might disagree.
Other animals are just as great but we don't spend near as much time around them to get to know them. If one is willing to eat pigs then they should and must eat dogs too