While a player's rating in, say, blitz is reset over time after a long period of inactivity, it can still be seen in the detailed statistics, but no one will know what their rating was in puzzle. It's as if the user never earned it.
Additionally, this confusion stems from the huge increase or decrease in rating when the game resumes.
Шахматные задачи изначально не предназначены для соревнований и ублажения своего эго. Если ты используешь их с такой целью — это твой личный выбор. Их первоначальная цель заключается в тренировке. Рейтинг нужен для того, чтобы задачи подбирались по твоему уровню.
Конечно, можно пытаться решать задачи с целью набрать наибольший рейтинг, но в этом мало практической пользы, так как придётся тратить кучу времени на решение (в то время как в партии у тебя обычно нет времени сидеть над позицией часами) и после того, как ты наберёшь рейтинг, следующие задачи тебе так же придётся решать долго, в ином случае рейтинг задач упадёт.
На мой взгляд лучше использовать задачи как инструмент для тренировки, а не для самолюбования. Например, я мог бы набрать рейтинг 2700 и выше в задачах, но я намеренно решаю задачи на те темы, которые мне даются хуже, чтобы тренировать слабые стороны моей игры, в итоге рейтинг меньше возможного, но мне это не мешает. По той же причине исчезание рейтинга задач проблемой не является.
А что касается калибровки рейтинга — это стандартная практика Личесса. Рейтинг так же калибруется если ты долго не играл в какой-то контроль. Просто реши несколько задач и рейтинг вернётся к прежнему состоянию. Если твоего уровня недостаточно, то ты просто не сможешь удерживать рейтинг выше того, который у тебя был до этого. Если кто-то использует калибровку чтобы набрать как можно более высокий рейтинг в задачах — он оказывает себе медвежью услугу, так как задачи на получившемся рейтинге он решать не сможет и он или продолжит решать задачи и рейтинг опустится или прекратит решать задачи и лишит себя тренировок, для которых эти задачи и предназначены.
Не говоря уже о том, что ничего не мешает читерить в задачах, если кому-то хочется высокий рейтинг. Но смысла в этом мало, так как человек обманывает сам себя. Но в том числе поэтому использовать рейтинг в качестве элемента соревнования и беспокоиться о рейтинге смысла нет.
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Chess puzzles were never originally designed for competition or ego-stroking. If you use them that way — that’s your personal choice. Their primary purpose is training. The rating exists so that puzzles are selected according to your current level.
Of course, you can try to solve puzzles with the goal of maximizing your rating, but there’s little practical benefit in that, because you’ll have to spend huge amounts of time on each puzzle (whereas in a real game you usually don’t have hours to sit over a position), and after you finally pump up your rating, the next puzzles will still take you just as long to solve — otherwise the puzzle rating drops.
In my opinion, it’s far better to treat puzzles as a training tool rather than a mirror for self-admiration. For example, I could easily reach 2700+ in puzzles, but I deliberately choose puzzles on themes that I’m weaker at in order to train my weak spots. As a result, my rating is lower than it could be, but that doesn’t bother me at all. For the same reason, the disappearance (or recalibration) of the puzzle rating isn’t a problem for me.
As for rating calibration — that’s standard practice on Lichess. Your rating in any time control also gets recalibrated if you haven’t played it for a long time. Just solve a few puzzles and the rating will return to where it was. If your real level isn’t high enough, you simply won’t be able to maintain a rating higher than you had before. Anyone who exploits the calibration to inflate their puzzle rating as much as possible is doing themselves a huge disservice: at that inflated rating they won’t be able to solve the puzzles anymore, and either they’ll keep solving and the rating will drop back down, or they’ll stop solving altogether and deprive themselves of the very training these puzzles are meant for.
Not to mention that nothing stops people from cheating on puzzles if someone really wants a high rating. But there’s little point in that, because the person is only fooling themselves. This is precisely one more reason why treating the puzzle rating as a competitive element or worrying about it makes no sense.
https://lichess.org/faq#provisional
Please check the FAQ before opening a new topic.
@alijeba said in #3:
> https://lichess.org/faq#provisional
> Please check the FAQ before opening a new topic.
That brief explanation doesn't address nuances like resetting your rating in puzzles. Perhaps they didn't take that into account?
Again, your rating in blitz will also reset if you don't play for a long time, but your high score will remain, while in puzzles, there's no way to see it. So, the achievement is simply erased from your history if you stop solving them.
And the system itself is questionable. If someone's performance worsens, they'll lose rating anyway; if they improve, they'll gain it. What's the need for such sudden jumps?
@Italiya said in #4:
> Again, your rating in blitz will also reset if you don't play for a long time
No, rating is not "reset". If you don't play, the rating stays the same, only your rating deviation grows so that first few games after a long pause affect the rating more.
It's hard to say what exactly you mean because of the bad habit of asking from a different account. My guess is that you ran into the (dubious) "dubious puzzle rating" feature discussed many times already, see e.g.
https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/why-is-my-puzzle-rating-showing-as-a-question-mark#9
https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/hidden-puzzle-rating#5
https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/other-accounts-cant-see-puzzle-ratings-over-2700-or-more?page=2#19
@mkubecek said in #5:
> > Again, your rating in blitz will also reset if you don't play for a long time
>
> No, rating is not "reset". If you don't play, the rating stays the same, only your rating deviation grows so that first few games after a long pause affect the rating more.
>
> It's hard to say what exactly you mean because of the bad habit of asking from a different account. My guess is that you ran into the (dubious) "dubious puzzle rating" feature discussed many times already, see e.g.
>
> https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/why-is-my-puzzle-rating-showing-as-a-question-mark#9
> https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/hidden-puzzle-rating#5
> https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/other-accounts-cant-see-puzzle-ratings-over-2700-or-more?page=2#19
What I mean is that over time, the rating in the tasks turns into a question mark, without any numbers. It's not questionable. And unlike the rating in blitz or other variants, it's impossible to know what a player's original rating was. As for additional accounts, you can create a thread about it; I'll even support you.
@Italiya said in #6:
> What I mean is that over time, the rating in the tasks turns into a question mark, without any numbers.
That's not "over time", if your puzzle rating is provisional, it shows as a number with a question mark, just as with game ratings. Please read the links provided.
> As for additional accounts, you can create a thread about it; I'll even support you.
I don't care how many accounts you have or why. What I'm saying is that if you are asking about a problem with a specific account, you should either write you question from that account or name it so that others can check what is going on. You did neither, apparently, so that we can only speculate.
BtW, if you are really interested in someone's puzzle rating, you can read it from the graph easily. And that works even with "dubious" puzzle rating.
@mkubecek said in #7:
> > What I mean is that over time, the rating in the tasks turns into a question mark, without any numbers.
>
> That's not "over time", if your puzzle rating is provisional, it shows as a number with a question mark, just as with game ratings. Please read the links provided.
>
> > As for additional accounts, you can create a thread about it; I'll even support you.
> I don't care how many accounts you have or why. What I'm saying is that if you are asking about a problem with a specific account, you should either write you question from that account or name it so that others can check what is going on. You did neither, apparently, so that we can only speculate.
>
> BtW, if you are really interested in someone's puzzle rating, you can read it from the graph easily. And that works even with "dubious" puzzle rating.
As a rule, I write about the problem itself, not necessarily whether it concerns me.
Let me explain again: let's say you've solved 500 puzzles and have a rating, no matter what. If you, roughly speaking, abandon this activity for a year, your rating will disappear. First, a question mark will be added to it, and then only a question mark will remain. It's exactly like what happens with chess variants with different time controls, but there are detailed statistics with records of the best score.
As I said at the end of comment #7, if you are really interested in anyone's latest puzzle rating, there is an easy way to find it.
@mkubecek said in #9:
> As I said at the end of comment #7, if you are really interested in anyone's latest puzzle rating, there is an easy way to find it.
I log into the user's account and see a question mark next to the target. Where should I click? Where are the results for the last 90 days?