new folding in studies on mobile, sorting wrong?

I like the potential of the feature but I'm not sure it's perfect yet.
At the moment the variations are displayed after the main line, which means I can't read it in one go if I want to read a variation I have to scroll down and the up again.
Would it not make more sense to sort it the other way around? So i could read the variation and then continue with the mainline or skip it if I don't care.
This way it also puts it closer to the actual context of what actlly happened and what came before.

Image below to show how it looks, it gets worse with more variations imo.

https://i.imgur.com/albi11T.jpeg

Would it not make more sense to sort it the other way around?

it's an interesting idea. but even if you had clear majority support, that's a pretty drastic alteration to the inline move list.

I agree. It's become very hard to read. Not only on studies, but on game analysis too. You have to scroll to the very end to find some alternative vatiation on move at the beginning. The old version was much more readable.

It would be great to have an option to revert back to the old look.

Otherwise, the variations should definitely be next to the move they start from, not somewhere at the end of the list. And there shouldn't be so many nested move lines, it looks awful. I can suggest the following solution (using an example):

1. e4 e5 ... 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. Qe2!? // Main line
   ___ (5. d4 d5 6. c4 c5 ...) // Variation 1
   ___ (5. ...) // Variation 2
   ___ (6. ...) // Nested variation
2. ... g6 6. g3 g5 // Main line continuation

Instead of "___" spaces can be used.

Much more clear and understandable, isn't it? You can now add buttons to expand/collapse nested lines.

I hope devs will fix this as soon as possible.

I agree. It's become very hard to read. Not only on studies, but on game analysis too. You have to scroll to the very end to find some alternative vatiation on move at the beginning. The old version was much more readable.

it's interesting to hear these layout concerns because nothing has changed. when everything's expanded the inline layout is the same it has always been. if you just want to hide the buttons, you can do it with stylus for now. set 'display: none' on selector 'a.disclosure'.

after the next deploy, you can also add a local storage key to disable collapse support (requires a trip to your browser's dev tools)

analysis.collapse.enabled=false

but i can't promise a ui for it. i think lichess tools will offer it as a preference as it conflicts with a bookmarks feature.

I hope devs will fix this as soon as possible.

we will not be placing variations first in inline layout. i don't think you'd actually like it if you got it.

@schlawg said in #4:

we will not be placing variations first in inline layout. i don't think you'd actually like it if you got it.

But that's the way it is in the desktop version of the page right? That's what I would like for the mobile I think.
I'm not even sure how it was before now, maybe the added clarity of the new layout just made this idea for improving reliability more obvious.

I might be overlooking something of course.

@schlawg said in #4:

it's interesting to hear these layout concerns because nothing has changed

This is how it was before (you can clearly see the best move continuation):

https://i.imgur.com/dK7VXKY.png

This is how it became:

https://i.imgur.com/QOLsf7v.png

The main line is nested every time a variation occurs. And you can't even just collapse and see the variation. You have to manually scroll down to see the continuation of the "best" move:

https://i.imgur.com/DlbxKOJ.png

P.S. If you create variations manually then they will be inlined as expected. No problem here.

I agree that this update is much more difficult to read and understand...

Also, it seems now impossible to disable inline notation. I've always displayed move without inline notation, but now I can't go back. At least, on mobile from web browser.

i see what you're saying now - there are indeed extra vertical lines created and things move even further to the right. i was confused by the suggestion moves might be displayed in a different order above.

it does look like a bug crept into the inline view.

@Nairwolf on mobile, i believe you need to landscape your phone to allow column view. it has always been this way. is it not working for you?

Inline has changed.

There is no way to indent/push down vertically a parenthesized variation while "forcing" variation from the mainline.

It just switches the chosen branch with the one in the parenthesis.

That is when n=2 (so the automatic n=3 does indeed kick in, but not the manual forced variation when n=2)

(not mobile here).

this is about visual layout to get a complete planar expansion of al the branches at all times. like a "real" 2D tree made of ASCII