@VelociraptorRex yeah, you have proven me wrong. i may lose in the winning positions too. i think its time for me to resign..... thanks!
@ItsAnonymousAgain, that's exactly the main reason why I dislike this idea. With the standard premove being in winning position and having 0,5 seconds I'm sure that all I need to checkmate my opponent is a skill. Also I know that my opponent (if he is not a kb-player) should show his premove skills and if he is quite good (or I'm not enough good) in premoving I won't win the game. All are in the same boat...
With the new premove I can't say the same.
Thank you for the discussion :D
With the new premove I can't say the same.
Thank you for the discussion :D
@VelociraptorRex Thanks! :)
Going to quote from BACollin on r/chess, from the AMA 9 days ago, because they summarize it very nicely:
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"A signature feature of Lichess is its premoves: a system where you can make only one premove at a time, but you don't lose any time when a premove is played. Compare this to chess.com, where you can make many premoves (I think 8, someone fact-check me) but you lose 0.1 seconds per premove. This might not seem like a lot, but consider it from this perspective: if you have 1 second left in a game with no increment, you can only make 10 more moves before you automatically lose. This becomes relevant in fast time controls like bullet, hyperbullet, and ultrabullet.
The vast majority of Lichess users disagree with chess.com's premove system because it doesn't fit the essence of a premove, a move that you make so you don't lose any time. Technically, in fast chess, Lichess allows players to play faster (I'd recommend watching GM Andrew Tang).
If you think about it, you need to choose one of the two options: Lichess' system or chess.com's system. You can't have a system that allows multiple premoves and doesn't remove any time from your clock because games would become ridiculously annoying. As such, most people think that Lichess has chosen the better option of 1 premove but no time loss as it is 'more authentic.' "
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[begin quote]
"A signature feature of Lichess is its premoves: a system where you can make only one premove at a time, but you don't lose any time when a premove is played. Compare this to chess.com, where you can make many premoves (I think 8, someone fact-check me) but you lose 0.1 seconds per premove. This might not seem like a lot, but consider it from this perspective: if you have 1 second left in a game with no increment, you can only make 10 more moves before you automatically lose. This becomes relevant in fast time controls like bullet, hyperbullet, and ultrabullet.
The vast majority of Lichess users disagree with chess.com's premove system because it doesn't fit the essence of a premove, a move that you make so you don't lose any time. Technically, in fast chess, Lichess allows players to play faster (I'd recommend watching GM Andrew Tang).
If you think about it, you need to choose one of the two options: Lichess' system or chess.com's system. You can't have a system that allows multiple premoves and doesn't remove any time from your clock because games would become ridiculously annoying. As such, most people think that Lichess has chosen the better option of 1 premove but no time loss as it is 'more authentic.' "
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i dont see whyit would be anoying not to loose o.1 sec it would just make it fun for non-kb players,not geting frustratedwhen there up a lot of materialbut loose on time due to oponents multiple premove system it would just make it fair if boxt players have it.
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