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I am chatting with some users that have been chatbanned and I noticed that, although I can still receive their message in my inbox, I don't get notifications for it, which can cause a delay in me replying.
I don't see the reason for not displaying the notification. They have been chatbanned, fine, but if I still want to talk to them, why make it more complicated for me? And if I were to decide their behaviour is inappropriate and I don't want to talk to them, I would have the option to block them, so again I can't see why Lichess should be interfering and hiding the notification messages from me.

I am chatting with some users that have been chatbanned and I noticed that, although I can still receive their message in my inbox, I don't get notifications for it, which can cause a delay in me replying. I don't see the reason for not displaying the notification. They have been chatbanned, fine, but if I still want to talk to them, why make it more complicated for me? And if I were to decide their behaviour is inappropriate and I don't want to talk to them, I would have the option to block them, so again I can't see why Lichess should be interfering and hiding the notification messages from me.

ZwischenzugX11

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#2

I agree ! I've been having troubles with this feature as well. Another annoying fact is that when you are chatting with the banned user , you need to constantly reload the page to see every new message.

I too find it unnecessary and don't see the logical reason here.Maybe , Lichess wants the banned user to feel disconnected when you don't reply to them in time thereby enforcing the punishment while being merciful enough to let them talk ??

But again, it's not an inconvenience for them but rather it's a annoyance for us which sort of doesn't make sense.
Hope Lichess looks into the matter.It would be helpful if a moderator could give a valid reason for this.

I agree ! I've been having troubles with this feature as well. Another annoying fact is that when you are chatting with the banned user , you need to constantly reload the page to see every new message. I too find it unnecessary and don't see the logical reason here.Maybe , Lichess wants the banned user to feel disconnected when you don't reply to them in time thereby enforcing the punishment while being merciful enough to let them talk ?? But again, it's not an inconvenience for them but rather it's a annoyance for us which sort of doesn't make sense. Hope Lichess looks into the matter.It would be helpful if a moderator could give a valid reason for this.

Shadow1414

#3

#2:

I've heard that if you follow a chat-banned user, you will not have to reload your page to see their messages, and this might also apply to the notification thing.
I agree that an individual's immoral actions should not put any harm - inconvenience - nor restrictions on to innocent people.

#2: 1) I've heard that if you follow a chat-banned user, you will not have to reload your page to see their messages, and this might also apply to the notification thing. 2) I agree that an individual's immoral actions should not put any harm - inconvenience - nor restrictions on to innocent people.

FC-in-the-UK

#4

@ZwischenzugX11 said in #2:

Maybe , Lichess wants the banned user to feel disconnected when you don't reply to them in time thereby enforcing the punishment while being merciful enough to let them talk ??
I feel it can't be that. Lichess is not run by monsters, tricking someone in making them think they are isolated would be disgusting and highly unethical. Reminds me of Dobby in volume two of Harry Potter lol.

@ZwischenzugX11 said in #2: > Maybe , Lichess wants the banned user to feel disconnected when you don't reply to them in time thereby enforcing the punishment while being merciful enough to let them talk ?? I feel it can't be that. Lichess is not run by monsters, tricking someone in making them think they are isolated would be disgusting and highly unethical. Reminds me of Dobby in volume two of Harry Potter lol.

ZwischenzugX11

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@FC-in-the-UK said in #4:

Tricking someone in making them think they are isolated would be disgusting and highly unethical. Reminds me of Dobby in volume two of Harry Potter lol.

Yeah, true.I think the same.Although it kinda looks that way and I couldn't think of any other logical reason.
The whole thing seems very pointless to me.

#3
I'll check that out.

@FC-in-the-UK said in #4: > Tricking someone in making them think they are isolated would be disgusting and highly unethical. Reminds me of Dobby in volume two of Harry Potter lol. Yeah, true.I think the same.Although it kinda looks that way and I couldn't think of any other logical reason. The whole thing seems very pointless to me. #3 I'll check that out.

benwerner

#6

It should work as normal if you follow them. But otherwise, this is completely intended. Without this, they could still spam or insult anybody that didn't block them and doesn't have DMs turned off entirely.

FC-in-the-UK edited

#7

Well either remove their ability to send private messages completely, or let the userd decide if they want to block them. This intermediate solution makes no sense at all. They can still insult people, the only difference is that those who they insult will only notice it later.

chummer

#8

I second (third?) what #3 and #6 are saying.

Following the person chatbanned made a night and day difference. I felt like an asshole when messages would be sitting in my inbox for a day, making it look like I was ignoring the user while I was posting quite a bit in the forums.

I'm ambivalent about treating a chatbanned user in PMs the same as everyone else, or keeping the current restriction. There's merit on both sides, but if my arm were twisted then I would say it's better to keep the current system. I'd rather you have to opt-in to see a chatbanned user's messages more regularly rather than opt-out, especially since I've seen a number of predators and abusers pass on the site.

I second (third?) what #3 and #6 are saying. Following the person chatbanned made a night and day difference. I felt like an asshole when messages would be sitting in my inbox for a day, making it look like I was ignoring the user while I was posting quite a bit in the forums. I'm ambivalent about treating a chatbanned user in PMs the same as everyone else, or keeping the current restriction. There's merit on both sides, but if my arm were twisted then I would say it's better to keep the current system. I'd rather you have to opt-in to see a chatbanned user's messages more regularly rather than opt-out, especially since I've seen a number of predators and abusers pass on the site.

FC-in-the-UK

#9

I think there are two kind of persons that can be chatbanned. There are authentic trolls, that are likely to spam random people's inboxes, but there are also some persons who can be a bit too direct or that 'accidentally' went too far in the heat of a discussion.

So I think it would make sense to have a total chatban for the trolls (where they wouldn't be able to send private messages), and a limited chatban where you wouldn't be able to post in forums but still be able to send private messages normally.

I think there are two kind of persons that can be chatbanned. There are authentic trolls, that are likely to spam random people's inboxes, but there are also some persons who can be a bit too direct or that 'accidentally' went too far in the heat of a discussion. So I think it would make sense to have a total chatban for the trolls (where they wouldn't be able to send private messages), and a limited chatban where you wouldn't be able to post in forums but still be able to send private messages normally.