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If "leaving a game without resigning can result in a temporary ban"...

...then why the heck do people do it all the damn time? It seems like every day I play, at least a few players leave when their position is lost rather than resign. Is the punishment too lenient? Maybe make the bans longer / kick in sooner?

...then why the heck do people do it all the damn time? It seems like every day I play, at least a few players leave when their position is lost rather than resign. Is the punishment too lenient? Maybe make the bans longer / kick in sooner?

How long is a temporary ban now? 30 seconds? 6 months?

How long is a temporary ban now? 30 seconds? 6 months?

@mcgoves said in #2:

How long is a temporary ban now? 30 seconds? 6 months?

No clue as it's never happened to me. I can only assume it's too short given the number of times I see people do it.

@mcgoves said in #2: > How long is a temporary ban now? 30 seconds? 6 months? No clue as it's never happened to me. I can only assume it's too short given the number of times I see people do it.

@IbnHussein said in #1:

...then why the heck do people do it all the damn time? It seems like every day I play, at least a few players leave when their position is lost rather than resign. Is the punishment too lenient? Maybe make the bans longer / kick in sooner?
it is enforced enough in my opinion
plus
you only see the problem from your eyes not as a whole the only way to truly see if it is too lenient or harsh is to download all the games and see which ones did the opponent leave and resign and see what percentage of games that is

@IbnHussein said in #1: > ...then why the heck do people do it all the damn time? It seems like every day I play, at least a few players leave when their position is lost rather than resign. Is the punishment too lenient? Maybe make the bans longer / kick in sooner? it is enforced enough in my opinion plus you only see the problem from your eyes not as a whole the only way to truly see if it is too lenient or harsh is to download all the games and see which ones did the opponent leave and resign and see what percentage of games that is

I often aborted bullet games with opponents having poor connection. I got several 15 minutes long bans and one 2 hour long ban (but it happens really rarely). I can hardly believe it is possible to leave games so often to get banned because of that.

I often aborted bullet games with opponents having poor connection. I got several 15 minutes long bans and one 2 hour long ban (but it happens really rarely). I can hardly believe it is possible to leave games so often to get banned because of that.

@IbnHussein said in #1:

...then why the heck do people do it all the damn time? It seems like every day I play, at least a few players leave when their position is lost rather than resign. Is the punishment too lenient? Maybe make the bans longer / kick in sooner?
Nothing you can do except cope

@IbnHussein said in #1: > ...then why the heck do people do it all the damn time? It seems like every day I play, at least a few players leave when their position is lost rather than resign. Is the punishment too lenient? Maybe make the bans longer / kick in sooner? Nothing you can do except cope

@Autofill said in #6:

Nothing you can do except cope

Or, hope someone from the lichess team agrees -_-

@Autofill said in #6: > Nothing you can do except cope Or, hope someone from the lichess team agrees -_-

@d4_is_bad said in #5:

I often aborted bullet games with opponents having poor connection. I got several 15 minutes long bans and one 2 hour long ban (but it happens really rarely). I can hardly believe it is possible to leave games so often to get banned because of that.

Thanks for the data points. Around how many times does it take for the first ban to kick in do you estimate?

@d4_is_bad said in #5: > I often aborted bullet games with opponents having poor connection. I got several 15 minutes long bans and one 2 hour long ban (but it happens really rarely). I can hardly believe it is possible to leave games so often to get banned because of that. Thanks for the data points. Around how many times does it take for the first ban to kick in do you estimate?

@for_cryingout_loud said in #4:

it is enforced enough in my opinion
plus
you only see the problem from your eyes not as a whole the only way to truly see if it is too lenient or harsh is to download all the games and see which ones did the opponent leave and resign and see what percentage of games that is

eh, I don't see anything about my usage of lichess which is too far away from the mean. Average rated player who queues for blitz and bullet. Letting time run out is also a huge issue, maybe more frequent than leaving.

@for_cryingout_loud said in #4: > it is enforced enough in my opinion > plus > you only see the problem from your eyes not as a whole the only way to truly see if it is too lenient or harsh is to download all the games and see which ones did the opponent leave and resign and see what percentage of games that is eh, I don't see anything about my usage of lichess which is too far away from the mean. Average rated player who queues for blitz and bullet. Letting time run out is also a huge issue, maybe more frequent than leaving.

@IbnHussein said in #9:

eh, I don't see anything about my usage of lichess which is too far away from the mean. Average rated player who queues for blitz and bullet. Letting time run out is also a huge issue, maybe more frequent than leaving.
what is the mean 1 game or 1milion games a day
and where did you get it
also average rated player
yet again
where did you get that info

"Letting time run out is also a huge issue, maybe more frequent than leaving."
they are basically the same thing
but lichess wont make it more strict because one person thinks its to lean they would analyze and see how bad the problem is
by looking at the data

Thats why i say we must do it for them
then we can show without a doubt its a problem
and then mods will see that it is problem and the numbers confirm it
and then they will do something

@IbnHussein said in #9: > eh, I don't see anything about my usage of lichess which is too far away from the mean. Average rated player who queues for blitz and bullet. Letting time run out is also a huge issue, maybe more frequent than leaving. what is the mean 1 game or 1milion games a day and where did you get it also average rated player yet again where did you get that info "Letting time run out is also a huge issue, maybe more frequent than leaving." they are basically the same thing but lichess wont make it more strict because one person thinks its to lean they would analyze and see how bad the problem is by looking at the data Thats why i say we must do it for them then we can show without a doubt its a problem and then mods will see that it is problem and the numbers confirm it and then they will do something

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