Feature Request: Custom game mode with Eval bars • page 1/1 • Lichess Feedback • lichess.org

In a recent video of Gothamchess (yes I watch his content don't kill me please), there was a reference() to an interesting notion that I would like to point out.
Apparently Ludwig organized some sort of match(es) where the players could see the evaluation of their position while playing.
[Note: I couldn't find any footage or further details on this so feel free to help me out]
Admittedly, I had already thought of this idea beforehand, and it would honestly make a fine educational tool, as the players would be able to sharpen their skills in real-time (while playing). I could honestly write a whole essay about the benefits, but I believe most of them can be deducted easily, so I shall not elaborate (plus it's 3 am at the moment and I need some sleep). Instead I will just sum things up by stating that I would appreciate it if the developers considered adding this as a custom mode, and that I would personally enjoy it at its fullest. Cheers~!
()Video reference (please don't be taken aback by the title,it's just Levy being dramatic, it has nothing to do with cheating):
https://youtu.be/wr3wkM_yefk (at 24:40)

In a recent video of Gothamchess (yes I watch his content don't kill me please), there was a reference(*) to an interesting notion that I would like to point out. Apparently Ludwig organized some sort of match(es) where the players could see the evaluation of their position while playing. [Note: I couldn't find any footage or further details on this so feel free to help me out] Admittedly, I had already thought of this idea beforehand, and it would honestly make a fine educational tool, as the players would be able to sharpen their skills in real-time (while playing). I could honestly write a whole essay about the benefits, but I believe most of them can be deducted easily, so I shall not elaborate (plus it's 3 am at the moment and I need some sleep). Instead I will just sum things up by stating that I would appreciate it if the developers considered adding this as a custom mode, and that I would personally enjoy it at its fullest. Cheers~! (*)Video reference (please don't be taken aback by the title,it's just Levy being dramatic, it has nothing to do with cheating): https://youtu.be/wr3wkM_yefk (at 24:40)

MentalFugues

#2

I'd agree it can have educational use, but that points towards why seeing a rating bar during a game would indeed be a form of cheating. For example, simply being aware that "wow my opponent apparently just blundered" can lead you to spend time looking for a winning move you wouldn't have otherwise thought was there.

I've played some games against bots with the eval bar on chesscom in the past since it is allowed and found it rather enlightening. Of course those games don't affect your rating. And... yeah, I think implementing a live view of eval bar has merit under some conditions but definitely not for rated games (unless there's a separate rating for games where both players see it).

I'd agree it can have educational use, but that points towards why seeing a rating bar during a game would indeed be a form of cheating. For example, simply being aware that "wow my opponent apparently just blundered" can lead you to spend time looking for a winning move you wouldn't have otherwise thought was there. I've played some games against bots with the eval bar on chesscom in the past since it is allowed and found it rather enlightening. Of course those games don't affect your rating. And... yeah, I think implementing a live view of eval bar has merit under some conditions but definitely not for rated games (unless there's a separate rating for games where both players see it).

Dragon_Emperor_9774

#3

@MentalFugues You are absolutely correct, that is why I suggested it as a seperate custom mode/variant, implying that it would have a seperate rating pool (or not have one at all, only unrated). Also I had no idea that chesscom already had this feature against bots, thanks for letting me know!

JacobHanini

#4

I would love to see this...
Great idea!

I would love to see this... Great idea!