Why so much hate for Flagging

@Funkmaus Thank you for your thoughts. I am watching Videos from Rosen etc because i want get better. I know that Bullet Chess is not a good way to learn, but im addicticed to the Speed. And yes, i love to confuse my opponent, because the moment where he/she think about my stupid move, its precious time who let me win.

And yes, Bullet is very addictive. I always say "now one more as my last game"... 10 Games later i repeat the sentence :-D

Thanks again for your time

@berserk-K yeah, i calculate too, but very fast and not the best moves :)

So mich bullet chat. Bullet is not about finding good moves. That is what i got to know. You can literally beat stockfish 1 10/10 times without time control. But playing stockfish 1 in bullet or hyperbullet seems like playing stockfish 7
Stockfish 1 is that fast.

No Stockfish 1 in hyperbullet and bullet is easy to beat. In bullet you have enough time to play for the position.

@Funkmaus I think you can learn a lot about chess from playing ultra. Openings, positional understanding, strong and weak structures, piece activity, king safety, etc can all be improved by the constant feedback which fast games provide. Whatever time control you play, what you learn depends very much on your learning objectives, and actual direction of focus. For example if you make the effort to see where you went wrong you are less likely to repeat. and focusing only on cheapos won't improve your chess much.

I've played a lot of ultra, and it's got my bullet rating up over 2200. But I would say it's more than that, when I watch youtube videos now, and there's guess the move I usually can, and I feel I have a much better understanding of the dynamics of a position.

my main advice would be to start as you mean to go on in terms of openings. For example as white I kind of messed up because I've always just played my own made up line, which probably wouldn't be translatable to longer games. But as black I've played Caro Khan consistently and I would say it's pretty strong.

One thing that you don't get from ultra is much experience with endgames. To learn those I think you really need to play with an increment where the games can be played out to completion.

Try playing stockfish 1 in ultrabullet, or even hyoerbullet they move instantly plus you won't win 50% of the time. It was hard fir andrew tang. Even he failed in his first two attempts.

@manangirdhar21 yeah i can't beat level 1 in ultra. I saw this the other week, .. he beats SF level 1, through to level 4 in ultra. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEUuK9xHXJo which i think is pretty cool.

Although andrew tang beat stockfish 1 to stockfish 8 in ultrabullet in a 1.5 hr. Stream, in which we found that stockfish 3 was the fastest and stockfish 8 is somewhat lime humans playing slow in the beginning and picking up pace as time runs out.
P.S.- Paranoyak is pretty famous too and u can find the guy on all variants on lichess.

Thanks for your opinion, @RubbleChess

Well, for the most part I must strongly disagree: you learn nothing about chess by playing ultra.
You learn how to move in advance, how to throw material for time and how to kill opponents premoves.
You wont even get a sense of the value of pieces!
I dont think that new or improving players have to play those evil fast controls. It will only mess up the style.
Once they get bad habbits it will be very hard to correct.
How - please tell me how - ultra improves positional understanding??!!!
Strong/weak structures for ultra are totally different from the real chess and you are aiming other kind of king safety - to avoid being mated.

Of course you're going to improve your bullet rating by playing a lot of ultra since you start winning more flagfights.

Its kinda funny that I am getting targeted for farming sometimes when people see me playing ultra: suddenly, out of nowwhere, they start to match me in 1/2+0.
Not complaining about it at all, its kinda funny.
I dont accept those challenges, since either 1/4+0 or 1+0. :-)

@Funkmaus I think what you mean is you learn nothing from ultra. I don't think you can speak for me. I can say with some certainty it's possible to learn quite a lot .

it's like anything depends how you approach it what you get out of it.