@polylogarithmique said in #19:
> Now how would you feel if an influent member of ypur community started saying that? And maybe everyone would start looking at you funny and local stlres would refuse to sell you stuff?
It doesnt matter how i feel. The law is clear, free speech is protected, and as long as the person has not made an accusation, its not illegal. My feelings are irrelevant in that case.
If others act on behalf of an opinion, the one who made the opinion is not responsible either, as he didnt called for action. In that case, the one who acted may suffer legal consequences if it broke any law.
Some opinions may be sensitive or controversial and may alter how people feel about you, others or any given situation, so one must be wary of said opinions. Magnus probably has more inside information or there could be other factors that compelled him to act the way he did, which im sure, he didnt took lightly. But at the end of the day, it is still an opinion. He never accused anything. He only said that he thinks that Hans cheated and that tournament organizers should increase security to discourage it. Mass media are the ones saying that Carlsen accused Hans with their headlights, as in "CARLSEN ACCUSED HANS OF CHEATING" or among the lines. He didnt.
"By Greg Keener
Published Sept. 28, 2022Updated Sept. 30, 2022
The chess world has been shaken by a cheating accusation at the highest level of play since Magnus Carlsen’s loss to Hans Niemann at the Sinquefield Cup on Sept. 4"
www.nytimes.com/2022/09/28/crosswords/hans-niemann-magnus-carlsen-cheating-update.html
"Chess world champion Magnus Carlsen accuses Hans Niemann of cheating"
"One week after stunning the chess world by resigning from a game after making just one move, reigning world champion Magnus Carlsen has broken his silence to accuse Hans Niemann, 19, of cheating."
www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1125316142/chess-magnus-carlsen-hans-niemann-cheating
"Magnus Carlsen publicly accuses Hans Niemann of more cheating"
"Magnus Carlsen has broken his silence on the scandal that has rocked chess by accusing Hans Niemann of cheating more – and more recently – than he has publicly admitted."
"Chess world champion Magnus Carlsen explicitly accuses rival Hans Niemann of cheating "
"Chess world champion Magnus Carlsen released a statement confirming his accusations of cheating against rival and fellow chess grandmaster Hans Niemann on Monday. "
edition.cnn.com/2022/09/26/sport/chess-cheating-accusation-by-magnus-carlsen
And this is Magnus actual statement.
twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen/status/1574482694406565888/photo/1
> Now how would you feel if an influent member of ypur community started saying that? And maybe everyone would start looking at you funny and local stlres would refuse to sell you stuff?
It doesnt matter how i feel. The law is clear, free speech is protected, and as long as the person has not made an accusation, its not illegal. My feelings are irrelevant in that case.
If others act on behalf of an opinion, the one who made the opinion is not responsible either, as he didnt called for action. In that case, the one who acted may suffer legal consequences if it broke any law.
Some opinions may be sensitive or controversial and may alter how people feel about you, others or any given situation, so one must be wary of said opinions. Magnus probably has more inside information or there could be other factors that compelled him to act the way he did, which im sure, he didnt took lightly. But at the end of the day, it is still an opinion. He never accused anything. He only said that he thinks that Hans cheated and that tournament organizers should increase security to discourage it. Mass media are the ones saying that Carlsen accused Hans with their headlights, as in "CARLSEN ACCUSED HANS OF CHEATING" or among the lines. He didnt.
"By Greg Keener
Published Sept. 28, 2022Updated Sept. 30, 2022
The chess world has been shaken by a cheating accusation at the highest level of play since Magnus Carlsen’s loss to Hans Niemann at the Sinquefield Cup on Sept. 4"
www.nytimes.com/2022/09/28/crosswords/hans-niemann-magnus-carlsen-cheating-update.html
"Chess world champion Magnus Carlsen accuses Hans Niemann of cheating"
"One week after stunning the chess world by resigning from a game after making just one move, reigning world champion Magnus Carlsen has broken his silence to accuse Hans Niemann, 19, of cheating."
www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1125316142/chess-magnus-carlsen-hans-niemann-cheating
"Magnus Carlsen publicly accuses Hans Niemann of more cheating"
"Magnus Carlsen has broken his silence on the scandal that has rocked chess by accusing Hans Niemann of cheating more – and more recently – than he has publicly admitted."
"Chess world champion Magnus Carlsen explicitly accuses rival Hans Niemann of cheating "
"Chess world champion Magnus Carlsen released a statement confirming his accusations of cheating against rival and fellow chess grandmaster Hans Niemann on Monday. "
edition.cnn.com/2022/09/26/sport/chess-cheating-accusation-by-magnus-carlsen
And this is Magnus actual statement.
twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen/status/1574482694406565888/photo/1