Certainly the use of some help such as a second computer or cell phone are almost unrealistic, it is difficult to rearrange the position to make it in time playing at a rate of 1-2 minutes per game.
Have you met any cheaters who were proven to have cheated in bullet?
yes but it will be detected by lichess
only way prohably is use to some extension but that can be easily detected
I wonder theoretically, if someone is marked as using assistance and if such a player sets up another account and records a video of each bullet game that he plays alone and very quickly reaches a very high level, would the admins countes remove the ban of such a person accused of using assistance ? If not then how else to prove someone's innocence ?
The moderators have access to things that we normal users have not. So in your example above I say that you can be a strong player and at the same time decide to cheat in one account but not in all.
It just so happened that I know of such a case where the player was banned although he plays alone. One of the evidences supposedly was that he was playing the moves smoothly, at equal intervals and very strongly - there happen to be games of 98% accuracy with no errors, etc.
But to the point. If the same player sets up a new account, records a series of videos of his bullet games, makes the account available for everyone to analyze, where you can see the timing of moves in agreement with the recorded video and very even, accuracy, strength of play, lack of errors in the game corresponds exactly to the previous account then in such a situation would the admins "acquit" such a player and give him back his account?
Yes, you can. There are programs for that.
https://github.com/ofeksadlo/lichess-cheat
Thank you @Eireahmhon I wasn't aware that such programs existed and I don't quite understand what it's all about but I guess the idea is that they play completely for you just give you a login and password ? Ok
Well, now that there are such possibilities, how to prove that the player who played perfect is not such a program ?
@corrino83 said in #8:
> Thank you @Eireahmhon I wasn't aware that such programs existed and I don't quite understand what it's all about but I guess the idea is that they play completely for you just give you a login and password ? Ok
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> Well, now that there are such possibilities, how to prove that the player who played perfect is not such a program ?
Lichess has a bot that will detect most cheaters. Some people are more deceptive. They might play half the game themselves, then turn on the program for the other half. These cheaters are harder to detect. If you suspect someone is cheating, then you can report them for further review. I've played two hundred games, and only one of my opponents was suspended for cheating. I don't think it's that common.
@corrino83 said in #6:
> It just so happened that I know of such a case where the player was banned although he plays alone. One of the evidences supposedly was that he was playing the moves smoothly, at equal intervals and very strongly - there happen to be games of 98% accuracy with no errors, etc.
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> But to the point. If the same player sets up a new account, records a series of videos of his bullet games, makes the account available for everyone to analyze, where you can see the timing of moves in agreement with the recorded video and very even, accuracy, strength of play, lack of errors in the game corresponds exactly to the previous account then in such a situation would the admins "acquit" such a player and give him back his account?
Sometimes people appeal and get reinstated.
Regarding #1, it is entirely possible to cheat in fast time controls, including ultrabullet (where a salient problem is people abusing lag compensation)
And as for #9, opinions differ on the extent of cheating, but it isn't at zero. Keep in mind that it takes time to gather evidence.
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