In the French someone just played it against me.
1.e4 e6
2. d4 d5
3. c4?!
Pretty weird move. After taking dxe4 it's called the Diemer-Duhm gambit. Anyone else came across this?
It has no name because it is bad. Black takes 3...dxe4 and stands better.
I can think of a couple of variations where it can lead to. So it has no name because it's not clear where it's heading to. Diemer is one of those, sure.
@NeverBeenTimid #1
Diemer-Duhm gambit indeed. I've played hundreds of blitz games with it as white with pretty good results.
Often black players lash out their auto-pilot moves like in their usual French or Caro-Kann, they sometimes get too optimistic, and make mistakes. In the French version black is a pawn up, but a doubled pawn.
See also :
http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/doc/games/chess/ddg/ @achja What line do you play after 4. Nc3 Nf6?
All the first moves for white have a co-ordinate name and an ECO name. Every move is a new position. Does it really need a name? Maybe a number like 960.
a3 A00 Anderssen Opening
a4 A00 Ware Opening
b3 A01 Nimzo-Larsen Attack
b4 A00 Polish Opening
c3 A00 Saragossa Opening
c4 A10 English Opening
d3 A00 Mieses Opening
d4 A00 Queen's Pawn
e3 A00 Van'T Kruijs Opening
e4 B00 King's Pawn
f3 A00 Gedult's Opening
f4 A02 Bird Opening
g3 A00 Hungarian Opening
g4 A00 Grob Opening
h3 A00 Clemenz Opening
h4 A00 Kadas Opening
Na3 A00 Sodium Attack
Nc3 A00 Van Geet Opening
Nf3 A04 Réti Opening
Nh3 E00 Amar Opening
With blacks possible moves the first move is now complete for both sides. The name might even have changed as the moves go on. It's a bit like chemistry and the naming of a molecule. Example H2O is Water, combine it with something else and it's no longer water.
Chess pieces that combine together to make a tactic should have a unique tactical name. Training puzzles could then use these unique names to identify the puzzle. Example: A Dirook combination: Two rook combinations. A Dirook + Tripawn combo (R2P3 Combo puzzle positions).
It's a question of creating a naming system that is clear and concise. Like the algebraic chess notation. Once learned ever position would have a name. The system needs a bit of brain storming. Rather than using the present naming system, we would have a new modernized naming system.
@Paradise_Pete #5
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c4 dxe4 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Be3
For example :
Thanks for the website
@achja whoever made that sure loved the opening.
There are a few lines that dont have "a name" mostly an opening, gets it name after som grandmaster ( like Karpov etc ) have play the variation in som GM or IM ( etc ) turnement .
But even here, you can somtimes find a vell know opening, that dosen have a name. eks ( for fun I like to call this: the Hansen gambit. ( lol ) e4 - e5.2.d4 - exd4 ( the game start as a center gambit)
3.Nf3 - Nc6.4. Bc4 - Bc5.5.c3 - dxc3.6.Bxf7+ - ... This system can take the game in to well known spanish and Italian games, but the variation dosen have a name yet......
Thanks
@achja. Might be fun as the occasional surprise blitz opening.
