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I always capture it lol
I always capture it lol
Good inversion theme to lines. And not too ambition of working memory capacity. The embeds are right on topic.
Not done reading, but I could tell that from first "glance".
Not over ambitious size of the blog, yet I suspect the inversion that makes the theme be in the title, and cover more than one main line, to be finally putting ideas first. Would save me some time getting lost in some 3D line printer plan of filling a big space with such tiny diameter curve as a main line.
Good one.
Right on time for my exasperation with chess culture, or one of them. The one that is about speed of execution of main lines in undefined "sized" repertoires.... And whereabouts, @dailyinsanity, of course whereabouts, why did I not mention it with "volumetric" size (it goes without saying, he-he, in my expertise before I started looking at chess, rediscovering it more seriously on Lichess, since 2019); Sorry op! It looks like spam but isn't, I just don't want to ramble why.
Although I could say that a pattern or a theme is likely to have a more generalizable learned volume trajectory than the distinct main lines.
Do not capture that pawn!
DON'T CAPTURE IT!
So... DO NOT CAPTURE THAT PAWN
LOL! so now, let's see how that golden rule evolves in the diversity of chess culture. It is tongue in cheek, people, I hope, and would vote 80%. But, now the world is very big, even chess culture. And I keep that 20% chance, I might be reading what I want to read. But I laugh with you, op, if in the 80% truth probability (another hard concept, not being made explicit ever).
EDited: inversion of meaning. I mean undefined or un-characterized "size", as in volume not cardinality, actually that question is not ever made really explicit. We are stuck at smaller by count of distinct or bigger, but if we could ask, we could start putting more of the non-chess reality of learning theories out there into the culture.
Good inversion theme to lines. And not too ambition of working memory capacity. The embeds are right on topic.
Not done reading, but I could tell that from first "glance".
Not over ambitious size of the blog, yet I suspect the inversion that makes the theme be in the title, and cover more than one main line, to be finally putting ideas first. Would save me some time getting lost in some 3D line printer plan of filling a big space with such tiny diameter curve as a main line.
Good one.
Right on time for my exasperation with chess culture, or one of them. The one that is about speed of execution of main lines in undefined "sized" repertoires.... And whereabouts, @dailyinsanity, of course whereabouts, why did I not mention it with "volumetric" size (it goes without saying, he-he, in my expertise before I started looking at chess, rediscovering it more seriously on Lichess, since 2019); Sorry op! It looks like spam but isn't, I just don't want to ramble why.
Although I could say that a pattern or a theme is likely to have a more generalizable learned volume trajectory than the distinct main lines.
> Do not capture that pawn!
> DON'T CAPTURE IT!
> So... DO NOT CAPTURE THAT PAWN
LOL! so now, let's see how that golden rule evolves in the diversity of chess culture. It is tongue in cheek, people, I hope, and would vote 80%. But, now the world is very big, even chess culture. And I keep that 20% chance, I might be reading what I want to read. But I laugh with you, op, if in the 80% truth probability (another hard concept, not being made explicit ever).
EDited: inversion of meaning. I mean undefined or un-characterized "size", as in volume not cardinality, actually that question is not ever made really explicit. We are stuck at smaller by count of distinct or bigger, but if we could ask, we could start putting more of the non-chess reality of learning theories out there into the culture.
not the first blog of your with the good aspect I just reviewed:
theme first example (lines if you wish) later.
TFExL? TFEL? TFELiL? TFML? (main lines)
I am happy to have caught it through the mere 3-headed lobby rotation sampling. It has a social media component, and it tends to make avalanches.... So I count myself lucky to have found yours. I wonder if one would integrate the visible time durations over all the blogs if one could see pattern formation dynamics, or other emergent properties of the code level design, not having such intent, perhaps.
not the first blog of your with the good aspect I just reviewed:
> theme first example (lines if you wish) later.
TFExL? TFEL? TFELiL? TFML? (main lines)
I am happy to have caught it through the mere 3-headed lobby rotation sampling. It has a social media component, and it tends to make avalanches.... So I count myself lucky to have found yours. I wonder if one would integrate the visible time durations over all the blogs if one could see pattern formation dynamics, or other emergent properties of the code level design, not having such intent, perhaps.
Not in every position,so u need to check it before taking it,maybe its a free pawn this is like making memorization and it is not for chess player espacially new players.
Not in every position,so u need to check it before taking it,maybe its a free pawn this is like making memorization and it is not for chess player espacially new players.
@dboing said in #3:
Good inversion theme to lines. And not too ambition of working memory capacity. The embeds are right on topic.
Not done reading, but I could tell that from first "glance".Not over ambitious size of the blog, yet I suspect the inversion that makes the theme be in the title, and cover more than one main line, to be finally putting ideas first. Would save me some time getting lost in some 3D line printer plan of filling a big space with such tiny diameter curve as a main line.
Good one.
Right on time for my exasperation with chess culture, or one of them. The one that is about speed of execution of main lines in characterized "size".... And whereabouts, @dailyinsanity, of course whereabouts, why did I not mention it with "volumetric" size (it goes without saying, he-he, in my expertise before I started looking at chess, rediscovering it more seriously on Lichess, since 2019); Sorry op! It looks like spam but isn't, I just don't want to ramble why.
Although I could say that a pattern or a theme is likely to have a more generalizable learned volume trajectory than the distinct main lines.
LOL! so now, let's see how that golden rule evolves in the diversity of chess culture. It is tongue in cheek, people, I hope, and would vote 80%. But, now the world is very big, even chess culture. And I keep that 20% chance, I might be reading what I want to read. But I laugh with you, op, if in the 80% truth probability (another hard concept, not being made explicit ever).
Hi! Thanks for the feedback
@dboing said in #3:
> Good inversion theme to lines. And not too ambition of working memory capacity. The embeds are right on topic.
> Not done reading, but I could tell that from first "glance".
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> Not over ambitious size of the blog, yet I suspect the inversion that makes the theme be in the title, and cover more than one main line, to be finally putting ideas first. Would save me some time getting lost in some 3D line printer plan of filling a big space with such tiny diameter curve as a main line.
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> Good one.
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> Right on time for my exasperation with chess culture, or one of them. The one that is about speed of execution of main lines in characterized "size".... And whereabouts, @dailyinsanity, of course whereabouts, why did I not mention it with "volumetric" size (it goes without saying, he-he, in my expertise before I started looking at chess, rediscovering it more seriously on Lichess, since 2019); Sorry op! It looks like spam but isn't, I just don't want to ramble why.
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> Although I could say that a pattern or a theme is likely to have a more generalizable learned volume trajectory than the distinct main lines.
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> LOL! so now, let's see how that golden rule evolves in the diversity of chess culture. It is tongue in cheek, people, I hope, and would vote 80%. But, now the world is very big, even chess culture. And I keep that 20% chance, I might be reading what I want to read. But I laugh with you, op, if in the 80% truth probability (another hard concept, not being made explicit ever).
Hi! Thanks for the feedback
It is clear that you are giving all the precautions around the punch line. Making it a punch line. This is what I thought it was. We need the lively theater, and the reasoning, the chewing on which desirable target to include in our planning ahead gamut.
If one reads older works, with that mind set; of pondering on candidate targets, or Kotov desirable candidates, which allows for different level of speech (the emphases, the theater around the logic of hypotheses), I think this more careful reading of punch line advice is possible, but that does not seem to be how it deployed over ages. Why am I making a fuss. Done expressing that here now. Thanks for the space.
It is clear that you are giving all the precautions around the punch line. Making it a punch line. This is what I thought it was. We need the lively theater, and the reasoning, the chewing on which desirable target to include in our planning ahead gamut.
If one reads older works, with that mind set; of pondering on candidate targets, or Kotov desirable candidates, which allows for different level of speech (the emphases, the theater around the logic of hypotheses), I think this more careful reading of punch line advice is possible, but that does not seem to be how it deployed over ages. Why am I making a fuss. Done expressing that here now. Thanks for the space.
now as chess learner. paraphrasing to assimilate the "beware" message.
Could we say that taking the pawn with the queen deep in opponent territory is exposing the queen to be either trapped or losing some initiative in having to defend it, possibly even tempi for other sub-plans that might have been brewing in parallel, and different arcs of depth.
Also, for the same board reason** of board opponent deep territory of a powerful offensive piece. The angles of mobility of the queen would likely be reduced. Well that seems board geometry of mobility of the queen correlated (if not corrolary). So basically the queen material grab there, might be a transient move choice room bottleneck. Such thing better be just an intermediate immediate prequel to something else. Not a deep unsupported expedition just for the eventual one pawn endgame advantage.
I do like to slow my reasoning down in writing. Thanks for that space too. The few examples now for me.
Remark: I do like when they don't need to be a plethora) because the board arguments have been first made clear. But we should never forget the non-conscious learner, that does need some 2D explicit... to anchor the possibly still floating but consistent abstractions, that reasoning might be called. In my cognitive psychological make up, it seems that 3 is enough here. I might have already experienced what you summarized though, but I like having to make some rationalization as you proposed.
** Probabilistic aspect, as all early board arguments, for the terminal outcomes are in the fog of anyone horizon, unless having memorized all the lines of chess. Early means closer to initial spatial expansion, from initial maximal separation packing toward each other side (and intermingling, on the 2D thing, I said I was paraphrasing, so it might sound weird, using words that will stick to my future mind). Entropy like notion of material ordering (within color and between color subsets).
now as chess learner. paraphrasing to assimilate the "beware" message.
Could we say that taking the pawn with the queen deep in opponent territory is exposing the queen to be either trapped or losing some initiative in having to defend it, possibly even tempi for other sub-plans that might have been brewing in parallel, and different arcs of depth.
Also, for the same board reason** of board opponent deep territory of a powerful offensive piece. The angles of mobility of the queen would likely be reduced. Well that seems board geometry of mobility of the queen correlated (if not corrolary). So basically the queen material grab there, might be a transient move choice room bottleneck. Such thing better be just an intermediate immediate prequel to something else. Not a deep unsupported expedition just for the eventual one pawn endgame advantage.
I do like to slow my reasoning down in writing. Thanks for that space too. The few examples now for me.
Remark: I do like when they don't need to be a plethora) because the board arguments have been first made clear. But we should never forget the non-conscious learner, that does need some 2D explicit... to anchor the possibly still floating but consistent abstractions, that reasoning might be called. In my cognitive psychological make up, it seems that 3 is enough here. I might have already experienced what you summarized though, but I like having to make some rationalization as you proposed.
** Probabilistic aspect, as all early board arguments, for the terminal outcomes are in the fog of anyone horizon, unless having memorized all the lines of chess. Early means closer to initial spatial expansion, from initial maximal separation packing toward each other side (and intermingling, on the 2D thing, I said I was paraphrasing, so it might sound weird, using words that will stick to my future mind). Entropy like notion of material ordering (within color and between color subsets).
@Another-ChessPlayer said in #5:
Not in every position,so u need to check it before taking it,maybe its a free pawn this is like making memorization and it is not for chess player espacially new players.
Are you saying the wrapping advice in capital letters is NOT good for new players?
Or also the argumentation in text (not in capital letters) which is what I am congratulating the blog about (and the title containing the position/action pattern as topic target, not only one line where it might be found) ?
I find that the wrapper is a habit of delivery in the culture of chess teaching (or in books meant as manuals), but that the content is a rare presentation in the business of opening "something" (some call it theory).
So, as a warning, not a winning recipe to follow blindly, it may come as a dialogue with the temptation idea that it seems to offer balancing arguments. Can the op clarify, the intent? Am I misinterpreting what is not written there?
(more rambling moved, developping behind above).
@Another-ChessPlayer said in #5:
> Not in every position,so u need to check it before taking it,maybe its a free pawn this is like making memorization and it is not for chess player espacially new players.
Are you saying the wrapping advice in capital letters is NOT good for new players?
Or also the argumentation in text (not in capital letters) which is what I am congratulating the blog about (and the title containing the position/action pattern as topic target, not only one line where it might be found) ?
I find that the wrapper is a habit of delivery in the culture of chess teaching (or in books meant as manuals), but that the content is a rare presentation in the business of opening "something" (some call it theory).
So, as a warning, not a winning recipe to follow blindly, it may come as a dialogue with the temptation idea that it seems to offer balancing arguments. Can the op clarify, the intent? Am I misinterpreting what is not written there?
(more rambling moved, developping behind above).
I always capture it lol
I always capture it lol



