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Go to a pub where no one plays chess

Go to a pub where no one plays chess

@Feet_Barbie, this is an interesting discussion that gets into why different plyer pools create "rating" and perceived strength differences. How many strong pub randoms have you run into? 2100 lichess rapid is a pretty strong rating even in "online chess player" context. Heck I'm only 1550ish, so basically coin-flip odds against other lichess users. But I bet against a population of "at a pub picking up a chess board to kill time" players a 1500 player's win rate wouldn't be worlds different than a 2100. Of course if you're talking about specifically interested people who are regulars at a pub they know has chess boards, then I think the conversation is totally different.

For me, it's enough that on rare occassions when someone else mentions chess, I have a secret party trick. No player that "just knows how the pieces move" and plays every once in a while is beating anyone here haha

@Feet_Barbie, this is an interesting discussion that gets into why different plyer pools create "rating" and perceived strength differences. How many strong pub randoms have you run into? 2100 lichess rapid is a pretty strong rating even in "online chess player" context. Heck I'm only 1550ish, so basically coin-flip odds against other lichess users. But I bet against a population of "at a pub picking up a chess board to kill time" players a 1500 player's win rate wouldn't be worlds different than a 2100. Of course if you're talking about specifically interested people who are regulars at a pub they know has chess boards, then I think the conversation is totally different. For me, it's enough that on rare occassions when someone else mentions chess, I have a secret party trick. No player that "just knows how the pieces move" and plays every once in a while is beating anyone here haha

@PrettyAwful said in #13:

Yeah it depends on the pub since Magnus also goes to pubs sometimes .
It's definitely a party trick especially since I can play ok enough blindfolded that it stuns beginners.

I agree that to beat randoms 1500 lichess is definitely enough and already better than the majority of people.

Title of the article was more to frame improvement in a different way than the usual how to get to x rating or how to get a title, when most of us just play to feel like untouchable geniuses to random tipsy beginners

@PrettyAwful said in #13: > Yeah it depends on the pub since Magnus also goes to pubs sometimes . It's definitely a party trick especially since I can play ok enough blindfolded that it stuns beginners. I agree that to beat randoms 1500 lichess is definitely enough and already better than the majority of people. Title of the article was more to frame improvement in a different way than the usual how to get to x rating or how to get a title, when most of us just play to feel like untouchable geniuses to random tipsy beginners

@Feet_Barbie said in #14:

Yeah it depends on the pub since Magnus also goes to pubs sometimes .
It's definitely a party trick especially since I can play ok enough blindfolded that it stuns beginners.

I agree that to beat randoms 1500 lichess is definitely enough and already better than the majority of people.

Title of the article was more to frame improvement in a different way than the usual how to get to x rating or how to get a title, when most of us just play to feel like untouchable geniuses to random tipsy beginners

Totally get it! I actually love this mentality as it's much more forgiving than "x rating" or "I want to be titled." As someone who has hard stuck between 1500-1600, it does give me comfort that non players could basically never stumble upon beating me. :)

@Feet_Barbie said in #14: > Yeah it depends on the pub since Magnus also goes to pubs sometimes . > It's definitely a party trick especially since I can play ok enough blindfolded that it stuns beginners. > > I agree that to beat randoms 1500 lichess is definitely enough and already better than the majority of people. > > Title of the article was more to frame improvement in a different way than the usual how to get to x rating or how to get a title, when most of us just play to feel like untouchable geniuses to random tipsy beginners Totally get it! I actually love this mentality as it's much more forgiving than "x rating" or "I want to be titled." As someone who has hard stuck between 1500-1600, it does give me comfort that non players could basically never stumble upon beating me. :)

What are your favorite resources?
openings101.org for sure.

> What are your favorite resources? openings101.org for sure.

@Somalian_fisherman said in #6:

i think woodpecker method is a bit overrated, and if you spent that time on doing puzzle rush or doing easy tactics sorted by pattern (like pin/destruction etc) instead of repeating the same problems you would have better results.

This feels correct. Ive been working through "common chess patterns" on chessable while using their review feature as the author reccomends. I can solve most of the patterns Ive completed instantly now. Will it translate to better chess development over just doing a higher volume of tactics? Im not sold.

The review feature does keep me coming back to chessable and motivates me to finish the course instead of doing Lichess puzzles, so I think it might have a psychological benefit at least.

@Somalian_fisherman said in #6: > i think woodpecker method is a bit overrated, and if you spent that time on doing puzzle rush or doing easy tactics sorted by pattern (like pin/destruction etc) instead of repeating the same problems you would have better results. This feels correct. Ive been working through "common chess patterns" on chessable while using their review feature as the author reccomends. I can solve most of the patterns Ive completed instantly now. Will it translate to better chess development over just doing a higher volume of tactics? Im not sold. The review feature does keep me coming back to chessable and motivates me to finish the course instead of doing Lichess puzzles, so I think it might have a psychological benefit at least.

@Marco_Chess13 said in #17:

This feels correct. Ive been working through "common chess patterns" on chessable while using their review feature as the author reccomends. I can solve most of the patterns Ive completed instantly now. Will it translate to better chess development over just doing a higher volume of tactics? Im not sold.

The review feature does keep me coming back to chessable and motivates me to finish the course instead of doing Lichess puzzles, so I think it might have a psychological benefit at least.

-- yeah i agree i think whatever keeps you motivated and disciplined works best, and it can be different for everyone, the woodpecker method just gives a clear goal and something different to do. I think common chess patterns is amazing and really does help improvement

@Marco_Chess13 said in #17: > This feels correct. Ive been working through "common chess patterns" on chessable while using their review feature as the author reccomends. I can solve most of the patterns Ive completed instantly now. Will it translate to better chess development over just doing a higher volume of tactics? Im not sold. > > The review feature does keep me coming back to chessable and motivates me to finish the course instead of doing Lichess puzzles, so I think it might have a psychological benefit at least. -- yeah i agree i think whatever keeps you motivated and disciplined works best, and it can be different for everyone, the woodpecker method just gives a clear goal and something different to do. I think common chess patterns is amazing and really does help improvement

@Feet_Barbie said in #18:

I agree. Its a great collection of hand picked puzzles and its organized very well. I hope the repetition will pay off as claimed among the adult improver community. Either way it was the best money Ive spent on chess so far. Any other chessable courses you would reccomend after I finish this one? I was considering 'Everyones First Chess Workbook."

Ill look into the Checkmate pattern course you reccomend.

@Feet_Barbie said in #18: > I agree. Its a great collection of hand picked puzzles and its organized very well. I hope the repetition will pay off as claimed among the adult improver community. Either way it was the best money Ive spent on chess so far. Any other chessable courses you would reccomend after I finish this one? I was considering 'Everyones First Chess Workbook." Ill look into the Checkmate pattern course you reccomend.

@Marco_Chess13 said in #19:

I agree. Its a great collection of hand picked puzzles and its organized very well. I hope the repetition will pay off as claimed among the adult improver community. Either way it was the best money Ive spent on chess so far. Any other chessable courses you would reccomend after I finish this one? I was considering 'Everyones First Chess Workbook."

Yeah I'd say don't overdo it in buying too many courses, but for your rating id keep it up with tactics, maybe something a bit harder to focus on calculation , I'll make a blog post about that too but azel chuas courses are great!

@rborja1980 has gone through the course you mentioned maybe he can give insights

There's free resources too although I don't know how the new chessable policies affect them, but in this article I linked the on the attack courses, I also loved checkmate patterns manual / it's overall less helpful but really amazing to forever remember mating patterns and their names

@Marco_Chess13 said in #19: > I agree. Its a great collection of hand picked puzzles and its organized very well. I hope the repetition will pay off as claimed among the adult improver community. Either way it was the best money Ive spent on chess so far. Any other chessable courses you would reccomend after I finish this one? I was considering 'Everyones First Chess Workbook." Yeah I'd say don't overdo it in buying too many courses, but for your rating id keep it up with tactics, maybe something a bit harder to focus on calculation , I'll make a blog post about that too but azel chuas courses are great! @rborja1980 has gone through the course you mentioned maybe he can give insights There's free resources too although I don't know how the new chessable policies affect them, but in this article I linked the on the attack courses, I also loved checkmate patterns manual / it's overall less helpful but really amazing to forever remember mating patterns and their names