I enjoy playing chess together with other people (sort of as a team) and to discuss/suggest moves live while a game is happening. I understand that doing this on lichess is not allowed, and with a regular account that is very reasonable as it would result in ELO swings depending on who/how many players are involved.
I would like to suggest a special type of account (or allowing to "connect" two existing accounts as one) where players can play together as a team. The restriction would be that the account can only be used in that exact combination of players. This would remove any concerns regarding ELO mismatch, as the combined team would maintain the same average ELO.
Of course ELO for one (or more) players may change during longer stretches of the team-account not being used (or players playing "outside" the account) - but then this can happen with regular accounts as well, so this should not really be counted as a new concern.
Playing chess this way is much more fun for many of us, and I wouldn't mind playing against other teams as long as they also have specific team accounts.
I enjoy playing chess together with other people (sort of as a team) and to discuss/suggest moves live while a game is happening. I understand that doing this on lichess is not allowed, and with a regular account that is very reasonable as it would result in ELO swings depending on who/how many players are involved.
I would like to suggest a special type of account (or allowing to "connect" two existing accounts as one) where players can play together as a team. The restriction would be that the account can only be used in that exact combination of players. This would remove any concerns regarding ELO mismatch, as the combined team would maintain the same average ELO.
Of course ELO for one (or more) players may change during longer stretches of the team-account not being used (or players playing "outside" the account) - but then this can happen with regular accounts as well, so this should not really be counted as a new concern.
Playing chess this way is much more fun for many of us, and I wouldn't mind playing against other teams as long as they also have specific team accounts.
@cornergraf said in #1:
The restriction would be that the account can only be used in that exact combination of players.
How to enforce this?
@cornergraf said in #1:
>The restriction would be that the account can only be used in that exact combination of players.
How to enforce this?
even if lichess were to introduce this, i would not want to use it. and the reason should become obvious when thinking about the answer to the following question: what happens if one of the players on the account uses an engine?
in fact, the answer to that question is also one of the reasons why i doubt lichess will introduce it.
even if lichess were to introduce this, i would not want to use it. and the reason should become obvious when thinking about the answer to the following question: what happens if one of the players on the account uses an engine?
in fact, the answer to that question is also one of the reasons why i doubt lichess will introduce it.
For what it's worth, the Terms of Service says this:
The sharing of accounts is generally not permitted. Users may share an account for activities like "hand and brain", for streaming or educational purposes, but this must be clear in the account profile description, with names and ratings where relevant, and to opponents (e.g., by accepting viewer challenges, or playing pre-arranged matches, rather than from general lobby seeks).
For what it's worth, the Terms of Service says this:
The sharing of accounts is generally not permitted. Users may share an account for activities like "hand and brain", for streaming or educational purposes, but this must be clear in the account profile description, with names and ratings where relevant, and to opponents (e.g., by accepting viewer challenges, or playing pre-arranged matches, rather than from general lobby seeks).
Couldn't you just create a team of specially crafted BOT accounts? The account type is not just for engines.
https://lichess.org/@/Lichess/blog/welcome-lichess-bots/WvDNticA
Lichess Bots are for:
Connected physical boards (EDIT: we have a newer, better API for that now!)
Vote chess programs (letting spectators vote for the next move to play)
Custom chess clients (EDIT: use the new Board API instead)
Chess engines
Cyborg/Centaur chess (man and machine teaming up)
Anything you can think of that can play chess
You'd have to message your friend on the side. But that doesn't seem like a big hardship.
Couldn't you just create a team of specially crafted BOT accounts? The account type is not just for engines.
https://lichess.org/@/Lichess/blog/welcome-lichess-bots/WvDNticA
> Lichess Bots are for:
>
> Connected physical boards (EDIT: we have a newer, better API for that now!)
> Vote chess programs (letting spectators vote for the next move to play)
> Custom chess clients (EDIT: use the new Board API instead)
> Chess engines
> Cyborg/Centaur chess (man and machine teaming up)
> Anything you can think of that can play chess
You'd have to message your friend on the side. But that doesn't seem like a big hardship.
@Mennonite said in #4:
For what it's worth, the Terms of Service says this:
The sharing of accounts is generally not permitted. Users may share an account for activities like "hand and brain", for streaming or educational purposes, but this must be clear in the account profile description, with names and ratings where relevant, and to opponents (e.g., by accepting viewer challenges, or playing pre-arranged matches, rather than from general lobby seeks).
Methinks OP's idea would create an exception. But as I pointed out, his idea had some flaws.
@Mennonite said in #4:
> For what it's worth, the Terms of Service says this:
>
> The sharing of accounts is generally not permitted. Users may share an account for activities like "hand and brain", for streaming or educational purposes, but this must be clear in the account profile description, with names and ratings where relevant, and to opponents (e.g., by accepting viewer challenges, or playing pre-arranged matches, rather than from general lobby seeks).
Methinks OP's idea would create an exception. But as I pointed out, his idea had some flaws.