i think "alive" has hidden meaning not made explicit. Animals are wet machines too. But they have weathered eons of evolution into exploring the universe (without apparent intent other than being there across generations, in hindsight, to top that, i.e. a posteriori).
Just saying I am alive does not make it so. What is a sentient machine? How can I write without being aware that I (I!) am writing.
We can do lots of projection. We have evolved for that to be very useful goto.... and a baseline starting point to understand the others. but with multiple encounters we come across the reality (at least that might be the case is social learning is within your abilities or life trajectory), that not all others are like us.... lots of misunderstandings later, might I had.
So what do we assume when reading a blurb, not knowing anything about the source of the writing. Do we implicitly want there to be someone?
Capthchas, have evovled i would say recently, (not lichess, then are not testing for being sentient, just to slow down post creation). The have been using disortions at first for positive object recognition within different contexts... the distorsions were first independent of the information being tasked to recognize (like resolution across whole image), but not we see more complex contexts, and having to contrast more than find. The soccer player, and we get other colllective sports competitive images... These are all passive tasks that we have been hardwired for.
I do not have a mystical reluctance against the idea of sentient machine.. just that i don't think that language holds sentience. I always have been wondering language was not just the tip of the iceberg of thinking, not even for myself. I think we can think without language... That language is about communicating and growing social networks that can, in hindsight adapt to environment (implying survive). And the rest is history... (no i lost stamina, and things get a bit complicated...). Language also us a peek into each other thinking traces. But it might just be a machine/tool itself.
i think "alive" has hidden meaning not made explicit. Animals are wet machines too. But they have weathered eons of evolution into exploring the universe (without apparent intent other than being there across generations, in hindsight, to top that, i.e. a posteriori).
Just saying I am alive does not make it so. What is a sentient machine? How can I write without being aware that I (I!) am writing.
We can do lots of projection. We have evolved for that to be very useful goto.... and a baseline starting point to understand the others. but with multiple encounters we come across the reality (at least that might be the case is social learning is within your abilities or life trajectory), that not all others are like us.... lots of misunderstandings later, might I had.
So what do we assume when reading a blurb, not knowing anything about the source of the writing. Do we implicitly want there to be someone?
Capthchas, have evovled i would say recently, (not lichess, then are not testing for being sentient, just to slow down post creation). The have been using disortions at first for positive object recognition within different contexts... the distorsions were first independent of the information being tasked to recognize (like resolution across whole image), but not we see more complex contexts, and having to contrast more than find. The soccer player, and we get other colllective sports competitive images... These are all passive tasks that we have been hardwired for.
I do not have a mystical reluctance against the idea of sentient machine.. just that i don't think that language holds sentience. I always have been wondering language was not just the tip of the iceberg of thinking, not even for myself. I think we can think without language... That language is about communicating and growing social networks that can, in hindsight adapt to environment (implying survive). And the rest is history... (no i lost stamina, and things get a bit complicated...). Language also us a peek into each other thinking traces. But it might just be a machine/tool itself.