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Why Chess Books Don't Work

#101

One problem about your argument is that a lot of popular chess videos don't actually have that much educational content. They don't really explain any endgame concepts or explain an opening as thoroughly as a good chess book can. Of course, there are some very good chess videos, but there aren't many because on youtube and some other platforms, people are mostly focusing on making the video exciting and entertaining to get views.

One problem about your argument is that a lot of popular chess videos don't actually have that much educational content. They don't really explain any endgame concepts or explain an opening as thoroughly as a good chess book can. Of course, there are some very good chess videos, but there aren't many because on youtube and some other platforms, people are mostly focusing on making the video exciting and entertaining to get views.
#102

¿Comparar el ajedrez con la preparacion de la masa madre?. hummmm (me parece poco serio como argumento para denostar a los libros.
Compare chess with the preparation of sourdough? hummmm (it seems not very serious to me as an argument to denigrate books.

¿Comparar el ajedrez con la preparacion de la masa madre?. hummmm (me parece poco serio como argumento para denostar a los libros. Compare chess with the preparation of sourdough? hummmm (it seems not very serious to me as an argument to denigrate books.
#103

@papasi said in #71:

@RealDavidNavara @CheckRaiseMate

The opinion of a 2700 FIDE Rated player is always more important than everybody else, especially when it comes to improving in chess!

  • I also beleive that books are really important for getting the chess knowledge you need.
  • From videos you can learn, but you should also analyze yourself to understand the game in your own way!
  • It is really surprising to me that an FM like Nate Solon got into the discussion about books vs videos!

If a book is written, it usually requires SO MUCH more work to be done, than a video!
For example, I can record a video RIGHT NOW and make it public.
In contrast to that, I cannot publish a book just like that!
So the book, if written in a proper way, would be a really important tool for a chess player to improve!

Also, the chess books are read in front of a chess board. Compare studying "My great predecessors" from Garry Kasparov in front of a screen and in front of a real chess-board. If you do that in a correct way, you will get 90% from a book and 60% from a video, or something like that, in my opinion. The numbers are quite random, but you get the point.

Also studies have shown, that moving the pieces with your hands helps you remember, rather than by watching everything in front of a screen.

In conclusion, I think that chess books are really important in somebody's chess improvement and it should be a big part of the process! Videos can be fun and also educational, but when they are considered as the main tool of a student, things might not work out as well as you might expect!

  • Those few things from a FIDE Master rated 2409, who has played 120.000 games online and has studied over the board and also in front of a screen!

I could talk a lot more about this subject, but I will leave room for discussion!
Thanks for the advice

@papasi said in #71: > @RealDavidNavara @CheckRaiseMate > > The opinion of a 2700 FIDE Rated player is always more important than everybody else, especially when it comes to improving in chess! > > - I also beleive that books are really important for getting the chess knowledge you need. > - From videos you can learn, but you should also analyze yourself to understand the game in your own way! > - It is really surprising to me that an FM like Nate Solon got into the discussion about books vs videos! > > If a book is written, it usually requires SO MUCH more work to be done, than a video! > For example, I can record a video RIGHT NOW and make it public. > In contrast to that, I cannot publish a book just like that! > So the book, if written in a proper way, would be a really important tool for a chess player to improve! > > Also, the chess books are read in front of a chess board. Compare studying "My great predecessors" from Garry Kasparov in front of a screen and in front of a real chess-board. If you do that in a correct way, you will get 90% from a book and 60% from a video, or something like that, in my opinion. The numbers are quite random, but you get the point. > > Also studies have shown, that moving the pieces with your hands helps you remember, rather than by watching everything in front of a screen. > > In conclusion, I think that chess books are really important in somebody's chess improvement and it should be a big part of the process! Videos can be fun and also educational, but when they are considered as the main tool of a student, things might not work out as well as you might expect! > > - Those few things from a FIDE Master rated 2409, who has played 120.000 games online and has studied over the board and also in front of a screen! > > I could talk a lot more about this subject, but I will leave room for discussion! Thanks for the advice
#104

To the extent that books have an implied theory of learning, it’s that people absorb knowledge simply by reading it transcribed on a page.

DOH! or You know what? It just dawned on me, that this is also the implicit theory of learning for LLM as "sentient" bait.

> To the extent that books have an implied theory of learning, it’s that people absorb knowledge simply by reading it transcribed on a page. DOH! or You know what? It just dawned on me, that this is also the implicit theory of learning for LLM as "sentient" bait.