Wondering if anyone else has come across this.
In the last few weeks I've had multiple opponents premove wildly for the first 5 or 6 moves. Then suddenly stop. Make a couple slow moves. Then repeat the process. These aren't calculated premoves. They could have hung their queen multiple times. When I have attacked a queen or rook during their premove flurry, they just immediately resign. They have also caught me a couple of times when they abruptly stop premoving and won a piece.
To me it's obvious they are just trying to cheaply draw me into a blunder and if I catch them they just quit the game. Anyone else come across this? Is it even against lichess rules? Should I report?
Against what rule should that be?
@sheckley666 said in #2:
> Against what rule should that be?
It's awfully close to sandbagging/losing on purpose. They are just leaving open the possibility of getting lucky and winning.
@firebreathingpoptart said in #3:
> It's awfully close to sandbagging/losing on purpose. They are just leaving open the possibility of getting lucky and winning.
Same is true for unsound sacrifices.
@sheckley666 said in #4:
> Same is true for unsound sacrifices.
I think we can distinguish between a risky sacrifice and just spamming moves in hopes that you get lucky. Even GMs are guilty of the odd unsound sacrifice, but this is obviously just obnoxious and if too many people did it it could really sour the online chess experience.
So you think lichess should define a rule about the rhythm of premoves? Can you try to make a suggestion? Precisely how such a rule could look alike?
Sounds like a Bullet strategy. Nothing wrong with it, it works or it doesn't. If it doesn't it'll stop eventually.
I looked at a few of your games. There were plenty of blunders, both against you and by you, but none seemed to fit the description you gave. It just looked like blunders, not necessarily pre-moves. Of course I couldn't, well, didn't, see the move times. Funniest was when you passed up taking an opponent's queen that was en prise, but won anyway by retreating your knight. To me it was nothing nefarious, certainly not illegal, just coffeehouse chess.
@sheckley666 said in #2:
> Against what rule should that be?
There is plenty of wiggle room in the TOS.
> Some examples of poor fair play are provided below. This is not an exhaustive list, and is provided for illustrative reasons only. We reserve the right to take action beyond the examples of bad sportsmanship provided here, and to have sole discretion in determining what constitutes bad sportsmanship.
@sheckley666 said in #6:
> So you think lichess should define a rule about the rhythm of premoves? Can you try to make a suggestion? Precisely how such a rule could look alike?
@dnowmects said in #7:
> Sounds like a Bullet strategy. Nothing wrong with it, it works or it doesn't. If it doesn't it'll stop eventually.
Fair points. If it's a pattern of behavior then it's the same as sandbagging. The games in question were blitz. I have no problem with the tactic in bullet.
