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@Ben10Tenyson said in #11:
> Heres an actually truly perfect game
The problem with that game is that it relies on your opponent to blunder very early. It's not a matter of the player with the white pieces playing well, it's the player with the black pieces losing the queen on move 4. To me, a perfect game is not about having 0 ACPL, it's about having a low ACPL while playing a game based on your skill rather than your opponents blunders. Because of that, I would much rather take my game with 10 ACPL featuring strong, attack chess rather than a 0 ACPL game resulting from my opponent played very badly.
@TakeThePawnOrLose said in #12:
> The problem with that game is that it relies on your opponent to blunder very early. It's not a matter of the player with the white pieces playing well, it's the player with the black pieces losing the queen on move 4. To me, a perfect game is not about having 0 ACPL, it's about having a low ACPL while playing a game based on your skill rather than your opponents blunders. Because of that, I would much rather take my game with 10 ACPL featuring strong, attack chess rather than a 0 ACPL game resulting from my opponent played very badly.
I cant force my opponents to play well Lol besides the game i showed is more perfect and thats what matters the most when deciding the Perfectness of game
@Ben10Tenyson said in #13:
> I cant force my opponents to play well Lol besides the game i showed is more perfect and thats what matters the most when deciding the Perfectness of game
I'm not saying that was not a good game. It is good, I'm saying that I find a game where my opponent plays well and I have a nearly perfect game rather than a perfect game where my opponent plays like they don't know how pieces move.
I dont think opponents strength matters in deciding perfectness of game maybe it makes game look better we cant fault @hortense for his weaker opponent (relatively) and he objectively has perfecter game . Maybe your game is "better showcase of good defending and attacking and execellent chess than his"
@Ben10Tenyson said in #11:
> Heres an actually truly perfect game

But Black gave away Queen right at the start.
A true and real perfect game would be one where one side achieves 0 acpl with opponent making no major mistakes and game lasting more than 15 moves.
@Akbar2thegreat said in #16:
> But Black gave away Queen right at the start.
> A true and real perfect game would be one where one side achieves 0 acpl with opponent making no major mistakes and game lasting more than 15 moves.
I dont understand the 2nd point is it official? Or did any chess experts said it
@Ben10Tenyson said in #17:
> I dont understand the 2nd point is it official? Or did any chess experts said it
That's just an opinion but I agree with it. The point of a perfect game is to show that you played really well and that can't happen if your opponent plays poorly. Think about any sport for example, if in a match, one team plays normally and the other team has a complete collapse and is not able to compete, nobody says that team 1 played incredibly and won, everyone will say team 2 played poorly. Similarly, in chess, if one player is completely winning after 3 moves because of an opponent's blunder, you can't say the they played perfectly, instead, there opponent played poorly.
@Ben10Tenyson
@)TakeThePawnOrLose said what I meant before I could reply to you!
And it's pretty logical to know what is a perfect game.
A perfect game is not one where one side played terribly rather one where both sides played greatly (possibly one manages 0 acpl in a chess game).

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