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Is the bullet player pool better than the classical player pool?

My ratings:

Bullet: around 1450
Blitz around 1550
Classical 1800 at the moment

My feeling is that especially the classical player pool is the worst.
Only the correspondence player pool where i got 1900 is weaker.

Possible reason:

The faster you have to play..the better you have to be that it makes fun. For example if you do not know anything about chess a hyperbullet game makes no sence at all. Its just not fun.

I play chess for fun..but sometimes i also look at my statistics. Should i be proud of my 1800 (classical) or 1900 (correspondence) ratings? Or should i worry about bullet 1450?

I try not to focus so much and just be proud of my development. I realised that i got better. :)

How do you feel about it? :)
Comparing pools is hard as we don't have enough info. We only know rating distributions and number of active players. Plus we can see how many titled players there are in the top 100 list for each pool. What we don't know is how many games were played in each pool. In general, blitz is probably more competitive than classical.

Probably the main reason is that the really strong players don't play online classical. This inflates the ratings at the higher end. And probably has some inflation effect on the rest of the classical pool.

I don't play bullet or correspondence so can't say much there.

I think lichess exposes an API so you can look at everyone's ratings and comparisons on them. So someone if they have time can work out the average difference between bullet/blitz/classical for all rating bands.

The other thing to consider is that even within rating pools, a 1900 blitz players can be bad at 3 0 time control and good at 5 4 time control. I've tried this on myself. When I play 3 0 for 10-20 games, my blitz rating drops to around 1800. When I play 5 4 or 3 2, it rises to around 1900.

Personally, I look at how many people I'm better than metric you get in the rating stats. So for classical, I'm roughly 96%. And for blitz, I'm roughly 85%. Both pools are big enough for those numbers to mean something and for me to get a feel for whether I'm improving.
There are players who know not much about positional play but are fast in spotting 1-3 move tactics and thats enough to be an above average bullet player.

On the other hand there are people with allot of chess understanding and probably an elo-rating above 2000 with relatively low (around 1600-1800) lichess bullet or even blitz rating.

In my case (as an example) it depends on the situation. Sometimes I am able to play fast and accurate but another time I just blunder away everything in a heartbeat against opponents who are producing strategically bad moves I would never play even not in a bullet game. But they are winning at the end because I am blundering away my win or falling into some deep thinking and running out of time.

Really good players are often also good universal players but thats not always the case of course. There are tons of older players who are just not so fast as young players but very experienced and hardly to beat in a long chessgame but very easy to destroy in short time controls.

I am probably something in-between. ;-)

Best wishes
Nada

Just one more aspect of this difficult question, the user's ping (latency) should be considered.

For example, sometimes I have 700ms ping this means 1.4s lost on each full move.
700ms for your move to arrive lichess and 700ms for lichess sending opponents move to you - with 30 moves this is 42 seconds, completely lost.

Take this to a 3-5 minutes game and it is a huge advantage to the dude with 10ms.

Increment, of course, doesn't help at all.

The bullet pool is definitely better, mainly cuz all the titled players play bullet to encounter less cheaters.
Many glicko rating pools deflate over time. Since so many more bullet games are played than standard, the ratings go down over time.

Don't make the mistake of comparing those ratings directly. That is outside the scope of the function of ratings.
Ratings are actually much more spread out in bullet.

I think it mainly depends on your personal playstyle, age, etc. Some people can see long term plans well and others can make dozens of moves in half a minute.

Bullet is the least chess-like game of chess, don't worry too much about it :]. It's like morfine.
#8, thanks zerdax. I supposed they don't compensate because it is somewhat easily exploitable by the user as latency could be manipulated from user's side ...

I now wonder if there is someone doing it.

How I can" t do if ever my time is better it's block?Something is wrong. Please check de players!

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