@CheerUpChess-Youtube said in #20:
> I pronounce it Aljechin out of respect for his parents that chose that name. I don't name people how they want to be named, but how their parents wanted their kid to be named. This is our tradition. If people are too ignorant to learn new vocals or another language that is their problem. Especially english and french speaking people are KNOWN for not wanting to learn other languages than their own. I grew up multilingual, but I still face other languages and new vocals too. I have a friend from Iran. To this day I cannot spell his name 100% correct, but I will keep trying until I can.
Well, I think you are objectively wrong. You do not know what the relationship of an individual is with their parents. How do you know that a person was not born out of wedlock or resulted from an affair? What about adopted children, or adopted parents? How do you know the parents did not disown their children? Legally an individual could always change their first and last name even in ancient times.
Another issue is what do you consider a "real" name? You are aware that people who were from higher society in Russia where the religion was mostly Eastern Orhodox, or from Catholic countries, could have a formal name that could be given at church, and a common name? Often their church name was not widely known unless stated. This was the case in many European countries where aristocracies existed.
Third issue with what you wrote is that parents in no way own their children past a certain age. Actually they don't even own them as some sort of object even in childhood. If the parent may have turned out to be abusive or destructive the authorities even in the past could intervene.
Anyway. The reasons why Alekhine left Russia were good reasons. I do not think he had ever acknowledged the authority of the Bolshevik government and strongly criticized the Soviet regime, which is why he left. So in no way they could have any sort of authority to how he has chosen to write and pronounce his name. They may even have assassinated him, although it is not proven.
You also say "I don't name people how they want to be named". Hmm....so if you meet a person you do not ask them for their name or how they refer to themselves? You somehow check who their parents are, AND you then would be required, by your logic, to contact their parents and check how they named their son or daughter? This is absolutely disingenuous hypocrisy on your part because you know in practice we all ask for a person's name, and the variant of their name as they prefer to be addressed (you do not "name" them)
Also whom are you referring to when you say "our tradition"? Whose tradition exactly is it to check with the parents how they named their children instead of the individuals themselves? Are you speaking for the entire group whose tradition you are referring to?
Regardless of what your opinion of the French is they have helped a lot to the Russians who have fled the Bolshevik revolution either to France or to the French enclave in Turkey. If anything, they have shown a lot of charity to Russians.
About your "friend from Iran". So, when you text or chat with him you use farsi? I mean, his parents must have named him in Farsi? Similarly do you make your English speaking friends and officials learn the alphabet of whatever language your first and last names are? For example if you are from a Russian speaking family, do you write your name everywhere in Cyrillic alphabet? I assume you do not as it would be absurd.
> I pronounce it Aljechin out of respect for his parents that chose that name. I don't name people how they want to be named, but how their parents wanted their kid to be named. This is our tradition. If people are too ignorant to learn new vocals or another language that is their problem. Especially english and french speaking people are KNOWN for not wanting to learn other languages than their own. I grew up multilingual, but I still face other languages and new vocals too. I have a friend from Iran. To this day I cannot spell his name 100% correct, but I will keep trying until I can.
Well, I think you are objectively wrong. You do not know what the relationship of an individual is with their parents. How do you know that a person was not born out of wedlock or resulted from an affair? What about adopted children, or adopted parents? How do you know the parents did not disown their children? Legally an individual could always change their first and last name even in ancient times.
Another issue is what do you consider a "real" name? You are aware that people who were from higher society in Russia where the religion was mostly Eastern Orhodox, or from Catholic countries, could have a formal name that could be given at church, and a common name? Often their church name was not widely known unless stated. This was the case in many European countries where aristocracies existed.
Third issue with what you wrote is that parents in no way own their children past a certain age. Actually they don't even own them as some sort of object even in childhood. If the parent may have turned out to be abusive or destructive the authorities even in the past could intervene.
Anyway. The reasons why Alekhine left Russia were good reasons. I do not think he had ever acknowledged the authority of the Bolshevik government and strongly criticized the Soviet regime, which is why he left. So in no way they could have any sort of authority to how he has chosen to write and pronounce his name. They may even have assassinated him, although it is not proven.
You also say "I don't name people how they want to be named". Hmm....so if you meet a person you do not ask them for their name or how they refer to themselves? You somehow check who their parents are, AND you then would be required, by your logic, to contact their parents and check how they named their son or daughter? This is absolutely disingenuous hypocrisy on your part because you know in practice we all ask for a person's name, and the variant of their name as they prefer to be addressed (you do not "name" them)
Also whom are you referring to when you say "our tradition"? Whose tradition exactly is it to check with the parents how they named their children instead of the individuals themselves? Are you speaking for the entire group whose tradition you are referring to?
Regardless of what your opinion of the French is they have helped a lot to the Russians who have fled the Bolshevik revolution either to France or to the French enclave in Turkey. If anything, they have shown a lot of charity to Russians.
About your "friend from Iran". So, when you text or chat with him you use farsi? I mean, his parents must have named him in Farsi? Similarly do you make your English speaking friends and officials learn the alphabet of whatever language your first and last names are? For example if you are from a Russian speaking family, do you write your name everywhere in Cyrillic alphabet? I assume you do not as it would be absurd.