Least Favorite Atomic Openings

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I don't mind losing if the game is interesting, and so the openings I dislike the most are not necessarily the strongest. I'll mention 2 of them:

Nf3 e3: frustratingly common, and easy to play while hard to outplay. Losing to weaker players, in a position where you know you are lost but can only hope they don't find the correct move, that you yourself see, is not a good experience.
Nh3 e3 Nf4: this one is frustrating as well for a similar reason, being easy to play and hard to outplay, thus losing or drawing to weaker players too often. White gets a pawn advantage from the opening after ...Nf6, and then white's plan is to just trade off everything and shut down any idea black tries to create. It's boring, dull, and requires black to be much better in order to score one point. With enough time to think black can cook though and win from the space and activity, but most arena time controls are too short for me.

I don't mind losing if the game is interesting, and so the openings I dislike the most are not necessarily the strongest. I'll mention 2 of them: - Nf3 e3: frustratingly common, and easy to play while hard to outplay. Losing to weaker players, in a position where you know you are lost but can only hope they don't find the correct move, that you yourself see, is not a good experience. - Nh3 e3 Nf4: this one is frustrating as well for a similar reason, being easy to play and hard to outplay, thus losing or drawing to weaker players too often. White gets a pawn advantage from the opening after ...Nf6, and then white's plan is to just trade off everything and shut down any idea black tries to create. It's boring, dull, and requires black to be much better in order to score one point. With enough time to think black can cook though and win from the space and activity, but most arena time controls are too short for me.

JudeBaeTorrens

#13

everything involving 1. Nf3

TAiSThuban

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#14

i used to dislike 1.e4 and 1.d4 very much. i probably still dislike them, it's just good players who were playing them switched to other openings.

and Nf3 e3 or e3 Nf3, an opening that i hate to play for both colours. as white, it feels like yeah, i have got pawns, but just a few more moves and i'll be scammed. as black, im down at material but no idea how to scam at all.

generally, i probably avoid all openings with a pawn on e3 as white except Nh3 e3 Nc3. i thonk positionally its even better to have no pawn than a pawn on e3, which blocks my c1 bishop and doesnt give me any space

i used to dislike 1.e4 and 1.d4 very much. i probably still dislike them, it's just good players who were playing them switched to other openings. and Nf3 e3 or e3 Nf3, an opening that i hate to play for both colours. as white, it feels like yeah, i have got pawns, but just a few more moves and i'll be scammed. as black, im down at material but no idea how to scam at all. generally, i probably avoid all openings with a pawn on e3 as white except Nh3 e3 Nc3. i thonk positionally its even better to have no pawn than a pawn on e3, which blocks my c1 bishop and doesnt give me any space

sircachetes

#15

sorry to send something again without adding much to the conversation but I'm glad to see there's a lot of people with similar opinions and I'm not just a noob tilting kekw

Mixiong

#16

Nf3...... Stockfish thinks that it was best,I used to like it very much,but now I like e3 best now,it's more interesting and exciting.
About my favourite opening,I think that is e3 and d4.
I think the diversity of the opening is very important. For non-professional players, playing chess is actually entertainment. I think it's still very interesting to have flexible changes in the opening.

And about least favourite,I think it's hard for me to pick my least favorite,I think umm.....it's Nh3 or Nc3.

Nf3...... Stockfish thinks that it was best,I used to like it very much,but now I like e3 best now,it's more interesting and exciting. About my favourite opening,I think that is e3 and d4. I think the diversity of the opening is very important. For non-professional players, playing chess is actually entertainment. I think it's still very interesting to have flexible changes in the opening. And about least favourite,I think it's hard for me to pick my least favorite,I think umm.....it's Nh3 or Nc3.

NeverOFzero

#17

@bijiy said in #11:

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I want to see you play against yourself;) kapp

@bijiy said in #11: > :nf3e3 I want to see you play against yourself;) kapp

NM tipau edited

#18

1.Nc3 e6.

When I was an atomic newbie, another player showed me some openings. Among the lessons was that 1.Nc3 wasn't very good because after 1...Nf6 the natural 2.Nd5? fails to 2...e6! The cool trick and his higher rating impressed me, but later I questioned it: my favourite opening for Black at the time was 1.Nf3 e5 - so why not 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4?

Over the next few years, 1.Nc3 was my playground. I analysed 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 a lot, which gave me a significant advantage in the opening; there were no powerful engines or databases back then, so a person's manual analysis was very important. In fact, a common way to figure out how to counter a strong player's opening was to play it back against them. More and more players used 1.Nc3 against me, so I developed some trappy Black lines I could use, where I'd already worked out a refutation as White. One such trappy line was 1...e6. My refutation at the time was 2.Nf3 Qf6 3.Ne4 - nowadays it's well known that Black has multiple ways to get fantastic play for the queen, but we were more materialistic back then! My main line went 3...Nh6 4.g4 Qd4 5.Nxd4 Nc6 6.e3 Nb4 7.Bb5 c6 8.c3 and after 8...Nxa2 I worked out a good line for White. I used 1...e6 to win some games as Black, but then would win as White when people tried it back against me, before switching to another line as Black if 1.Nc3 came again :)
Then in the 2005 AWC final, Siggemannen uncorked his own improvement after 8...Nc2+ and won a great game. After which I tilted and lost the final heavily.

After that, everyone switched from 1...Nf6 to 1...e6. My enjoyment of atomic dropped and, to be honest, never fully recovered to the same level as before. 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 was by far my favourite atomic opening ever. What made it worse was that I mostly had myself to blame for introducing 1...e6 into practice!

1.Nc3 e6. When I was an atomic newbie, another player showed me some openings. Among the lessons was that 1.Nc3 wasn't very good because after 1...Nf6 the natural 2.Nd5? fails to 2...e6! The cool trick and his higher rating impressed me, but later I questioned it: my favourite opening for Black at the time was 1.Nf3 e5 - so why not 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4? Over the next few years, 1.Nc3 was my playground. I analysed 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 a lot, which gave me a significant advantage in the opening; there were no powerful engines or databases back then, so a person's manual analysis was very important. In fact, a common way to figure out how to counter a strong player's opening was to play it back against them. More and more players used 1.Nc3 against me, so I developed some trappy Black lines I could use, where I'd already worked out a refutation as White. One such trappy line was 1...e6. My refutation at the time was 2.Nf3 Qf6 3.Ne4 - nowadays it's well known that Black has multiple ways to get fantastic play for the queen, but we were more materialistic back then! My main line went 3...Nh6 4.g4 Qd4 5.Nxd4 Nc6 6.e3 Nb4 7.Bb5 c6 8.c3 and after 8...Nxa2 I worked out a good line for White. I used 1...e6 to win some games as Black, but then would win as White when people tried it back against me, before switching to another line as Black if 1.Nc3 came again :) Then in the 2005 AWC final, Siggemannen uncorked his own improvement after 8...Nc2+ and won a great game. After which I tilted and lost the final heavily. After that, everyone switched from 1...Nf6 to 1...e6. My enjoyment of atomic dropped and, to be honest, never fully recovered to the same level as before. 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 was by far my favourite atomic opening ever. What made it worse was that I mostly had myself to blame for introducing 1...e6 into practice!

chrisrapid

#19

Woow tipau !!!!

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