I think Lichess should edit their opening nomenclature with the more widely-used name for queen pawn systems with an early Bf4 by white. I don't know anybody who calls that the Mason Variation. Everybody calls it the London System. Names of certain openings/variations evolve over time. When I first started playing chess, 1.e4 d5 was most commonly referred to as the Center Counter Defense, not the Scandanavian Defense. Now, nobody calls it the Center Counter Defense. People would look at you weird if you called it that. There is no London player who says, "I play the Mason Variation of the queen's pawn game."
I still call it the Center Counter. And right now I'm looking at you kinda weird.
The Spanish, the Russian, and the Cambridge Springs variation ... I love these old time names.
BTW, is that Leningrad or St. Petersburg in that huge country (USSR, CCCP, Russia...)?
BTW, is that Leningrad or St. Petersburg in that huge country (USSR, CCCP, Russia...)?
@HurtU
The naming was done by FIDE and all openings are listed in Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (ECO). It's unlikely that any opening would be renamed.
The naming was done by FIDE and all openings are listed in Encyclopedia of Chess Openings (ECO). It's unlikely that any opening would be renamed.
@jonesmh Reminds me of when I was watching TV around 30 years ago and this announcer said, "Hello, and welcome to St Petersburg, Russia!" And I just went wth? :D
As black, I often play the Traxler Attack (1.e4 e5, 2.Nf3 Nc6, 3.Bc4 Nf6, 4.Ng5 Bc5) However, many years ago, most people were calling it the Wilkes-Barre Variation of the Two Knights Defense.
Some opening names change like fashions change. Sometimes, variations of other openings become openings in their own right.
If we go back in time enough, not only would I know what the London System is - if I saw it played - I would immediately think, "What the hell is that supposed to be?" Now, it's all the craze. I don't play it - but a lot of people do, probably because it is promoted by a lot of chess streamers. It's a solid opening - it's just not my style. I've toyed with it. But, nobody that I know is calling the Mason Variation of ... what? ... the Queen's Pawn Game? I still say it's weird.
Some opening names change like fashions change. Sometimes, variations of other openings become openings in their own right.
If we go back in time enough, not only would I know what the London System is - if I saw it played - I would immediately think, "What the hell is that supposed to be?" Now, it's all the craze. I don't play it - but a lot of people do, probably because it is promoted by a lot of chess streamers. It's a solid opening - it's just not my style. I've toyed with it. But, nobody that I know is calling the Mason Variation of ... what? ... the Queen's Pawn Game? I still say it's weird.
@MrPushwood said in #5:
> @jonesmh Reminds me of when I was watching TV around 30 years ago and this announcer said, "Hello, and welcome to St Petersburg, Russia!" And I just went wth? :D
30 years ago? Well, wasn't that about the time the name was changed from Ленинград to Санкт-Петербург?
> @jonesmh Reminds me of when I was watching TV around 30 years ago and this announcer said, "Hello, and welcome to St Petersburg, Russia!" And I just went wth? :D
30 years ago? Well, wasn't that about the time the name was changed from Ленинград to Санкт-Петербург?
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