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Can the Lichess community answer this please Fabi or Karpov

So Fritz Walter ist still better than all those Messis and Ronaldos? Well then.
@Sarg0n said in #22:
> So Fritz Walter ist still better than all those Messis and Ronaldos? Well then.

Different argument from a completely different game and Messi and Ronaldo have broken alomst all records past and present in football, terrible terrible argument

Try another one.
@vqh said in #20:
> Just shut up will ya? Your like a child.

I hope you enjoy Lichess taking away your privileges of commenting on posts soon

That's due to me reporting that ridiculous message you sent me then cowardly blocked me before I could respond to it enjoy haha
@Sarg0n said in #16:
> I mean if you read the 60 memorable games today you will notice that Fischer sometimes had no clue.
If we read 'Sarg0n's most memorable games' we will see that mostly he just played random moves and to his surprise quite number of them were successful!
@CrushAndLaugh said in #23:
> Different argument from a completely different game and Messi and Ronaldo have broken alomst all records past and present in football, terrible terrible argument
>
> Try another one.

Exactly the same. They have better training possibilities, better communities, even better equipment.

So like Messi and Ronaldo vs. Fritz Walter or Pele, Nadal vs. Borg, nowadays Super-GMs against the former champs.

The now beats the past.
@Sarg0n said in #22:
> So Fritz Walter ist still better than all those Messis and Ronaldos? Well then.
Modern day players may have achieved great heights but if you conpare then we see that they lack important aspect.
In football, the ultimate GOAT is Pele.
@Sarg0n said in #26:
> Exactly the same. They have better training possibilities, better communities, even better equipment.
>
> So like Messi and Ronaldo vs. Fritz Walter or Pele, Nadal vs. Borg, nowadays Super-GMs against the former champs.
>
> The now beats the past.

That is false and untrue, the football of the older days especially in the 80's was much more physical and more competitive as opposed to now where you can get a red card for just about any slightly strong foul. So this is a bad argument. Maradona and Pele are universally regarded as the two GOATS and until messi and/or ronaldo win the world cup that will remain the same

You are very wrong and very mistaken
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@Sarg0n said in #22:
> So Fritz Walter ist still better than all those Messis and Ronaldos? Well then.
Yes, he's far better than them.
He wasn't only Germany's pride but a legend.
And in football the actual debate is Pele vs Fritz and I weigh in for former.

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