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what are people's opinion on the israel-iran, israel- hamas and october 7?

The first article is literally marked as an "opinion" and talks about Israel's prevention of civilian casualties throughout HISTORY, not throughout the Israel-Hamas War. Only the third point in the article actually has statistical data related to the Israel-Hamas War, and even so, it only really says that they gave warnings and maps to civilians. Clearly not that effective when around 58,000 Palestinians, around 1/3 of whom are children, have died in order to continue to fight Hamas.

The second link appears to cite seemingly random sources (Twitter is listed 4 times? What the hell are National Post, which is paywalled, and Fathom Journal?) in order to disprove that Israel has killed over 30,000 Palestinians. For the sake of simplicity, let's say the Palestine Ministry of Health is lying about there being around 58,000 Palestinian deaths caused by Israel and shave off 33%, as that was the rough percentage of casualties that Hamas had "incomplete" data about, according to the website. That still leaves around 38,000 Palestinian casualties to around 2,000 Israeli casualties, which is still absolutely terrible.

The first article is literally marked as an "opinion" and talks about Israel's prevention of civilian casualties throughout HISTORY, not throughout the Israel-Hamas War. Only the third point in the article actually has statistical data related to the Israel-Hamas War, and even so, it only really says that they gave warnings and maps to civilians. Clearly not that effective when around 58,000 Palestinians, around 1/3 of whom are children, have died in order to continue to fight Hamas. The second link appears to cite seemingly random sources (Twitter is listed 4 times? What the hell are National Post, which is paywalled, and Fathom Journal?) in order to disprove that Israel has killed over 30,000 Palestinians. For the sake of simplicity, let's say the Palestine Ministry of Health is lying about there being around 58,000 Palestinian deaths caused by Israel and shave off 33%, as that was the rough percentage of casualties that Hamas had "incomplete" data about, according to the website. That still leaves around 38,000 Palestinian casualties to around 2,000 Israeli casualties, which is still absolutely terrible.

#16 was sarcastic. Still don't understand how the op didn't get it.

#16 was sarcastic. Still don't understand how the op didn't get it.

maybe you were sarcastic, but Im sure others were not

maybe you were sarcastic, but Im sure others were not

STOP! ISREAL LITERALLY FLYS DOWN PAMPLETS WHEN THEY BOMBED GAZA, TELLING THEM WHERE TO GO! ISRAEL GO'S OUT OF ITS WAY TO PROTECT FOREIGN CIVILIANS! STOP THESE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS
This was sarcastic as well

>STOP! ISREAL LITERALLY FLYS DOWN PAMPLETS WHEN THEY BOMBED GAZA, TELLING THEM WHERE TO GO! ISRAEL GO'S OUT OF ITS WAY TO PROTECT FOREIGN CIVILIANS! STOP THESE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS This was sarcastic as well

Well, then there's a problem.
Protecting foreign civilians?
You don't protect foreign civilians by blocking their food and water
You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their hospitals.
You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their food aid sites.
You don't protect foreign civilians by completely isolating them from the rest of the world.
You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their schools and shelter homes.
You don't protect foreign civilians by killing their entire families.
You don't protect foreign civilians by occupying their land.

Well, then there's a problem. Protecting foreign civilians? You don't protect foreign civilians by blocking their food and water You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their hospitals. You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their food aid sites. You don't protect foreign civilians by completely isolating them from the rest of the world. You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their schools and shelter homes. You don't protect foreign civilians by killing their entire families. You don't protect foreign civilians by occupying their land.

@coltsare1 said in #18:

exactly. you people who think your know-it-alls know nothing.you have no idea what your saying.someone in israel,on the other hand, expirences it first hand. do you know what its like having to scramble to your bunker at 3.00 am, hoping no missile hits your house? do you know what its like hiding out in your bunker on october 7th, hoping no blood thirsty terrorists come charging into your house, looking for blood? do you know what its like when you hear the radio,and you hear the iranians saying that they will push all people of israel into the sea? STOP! ISREAL LITERALLY FLYS DOWN PAMPLETS WHEN THEY BOMBED GAZA, TELLING THEM WHERE TO GO! ISRAEL GO'S OUT OF ITS WAY TO PROTECT FOREIGN CIVILIANS! STOP THESE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS!

Do you realize that since 1948, Palestinians have lived through what you call Oct 7 on a daily basis? House demolitions, military raids, curfews, checkpoints, sieges, airstrikes — for decades.

You mention running to bunkers at 3 AM. Most Gazans don’t have bunkers. No shelter. No escape.

Israel says it “warns” before bombing? Dropping leaflets over a besieged population with no exits isn’t a humanitarian gesture — it’s PR.

The stats speak louder than words: over 58,000 Palestinians killed since Oct 7, many of them children. If that’s not bloodlust, what is?

Oct 7 was horrific. But the cycle didn’t start there. It started in 1948 — when Palestinians were displaced en masse to make room for someone else's nationalism.

@coltsare1 said in #18: > exactly. you people who think your know-it-alls know nothing.you have no idea what your saying.someone in israel,on the other hand, expirences it first hand. do you know what its like having to scramble to your bunker at 3.00 am, hoping no missile hits your house? do you know what its like hiding out in your bunker on october 7th, hoping no blood thirsty terrorists come charging into your house, looking for blood? do you know what its like when you hear the radio,and you hear the iranians saying that they will push all people of israel into the sea? STOP! ISREAL LITERALLY FLYS DOWN PAMPLETS WHEN THEY BOMBED GAZA, TELLING THEM WHERE TO GO! ISRAEL GO'S OUT OF ITS WAY TO PROTECT FOREIGN CIVILIANS! STOP THESE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS! Do you realize that since 1948, Palestinians have lived through what you call Oct 7 on a daily basis? House demolitions, military raids, curfews, checkpoints, sieges, airstrikes — for decades. You mention running to bunkers at 3 AM. Most Gazans don’t have bunkers. No shelter. No escape. Israel says it “warns” before bombing? Dropping leaflets over a besieged population with no exits isn’t a humanitarian gesture — it’s PR. The stats speak louder than words: over 58,000 Palestinians killed since Oct 7, many of them children. If that’s not bloodlust, what is? Oct 7 was horrific. But the cycle didn’t start there. It started in 1948 — when Palestinians were displaced en masse to make room for someone else's nationalism.

@PenguinWhack271828e Israel did absolutely nothing to trigger October 7, same with Iran's immediate hostility right after the Islamic Revolution, so please mind the facts.

@PenguinWhack271828e Israel did absolutely nothing to trigger October 7, same with Iran's immediate hostility right after the Islamic Revolution, so please mind the facts.

@DeadlyKillerInstinct said in #26:

Well, then there's a problem.
Protecting foreign civilians?
You don't protect foreign civilians by blocking their food and water
You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their hospitals.
You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their food aid sites.
You don't protect foreign civilians by completely isolating them from the rest of the world.
You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their schools and shelter homes.
You don't protect foreign civilians by killing their entire families.
You don't protect foreign civilians by occupying their land.

go to the stuff I put here before

@DeadlyKillerInstinct said in #26: > Well, then there's a problem. > Protecting foreign civilians? > You don't protect foreign civilians by blocking their food and water > You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their hospitals. > You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their food aid sites. > You don't protect foreign civilians by completely isolating them from the rest of the world. > You don't protect foreign civilians by bombing their schools and shelter homes. > You don't protect foreign civilians by killing their entire families. > You don't protect foreign civilians by occupying their land. go to the stuff I put here before

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