about cheaters

I love when titled players come in and say "Oh I reported someone and they were banned straight away." Of course when you're titled they listen to you.

Yes lichess bans cheaters that are up in the high ratings 2200+ because its hard to play at that level. But i have seen youtube videos of people who deliberately troll people at about the 1900 level with an engine. Why? I have no idea and i believe this goes easily undetected by any chess website.

@Sarg0n
"close to a DNA test"
Cmon now lets be real.

The 'AI' might work to catch the average goofball who uses a engine with no attempting to mask it.

But; whatever this 'sophisticated AI' is; it does little to nothing at all for those who try to hide it; like using a second device on a VPN to run their engine; while using learning algorithms to simulate human blunders.

Plenty of examples of users who play a crazy number of games to later be marked engine; or youtube videos of users using engines on lichess with no detection.

And there are several threads here and on discord talking about variants like KotH and Antichess not having any actual AI cheat detection and depending wholly on human review.

I realize its good to keep up appearances and all; but lets not pretend that the site is 'cheat proof'

Its cheat resistant; but those who want to cheat; will find a way to do it.

And, the fact that people you report get banned frequently or always shows the inherent bias in the system and problem with human review.

Low ranked people who report a lot; probably have their reports largely ignored. Meanwhile, others have their reports treated like gospel.

Needs a bit of due diligence.

Cheat reports should have absolutely no user name attached to them; for both the reporter and the reported.

I do realize the sheer number of reports that must come in and 'picking and choosing' which ones to review might be only pragmatic.

I think the best thing to keep in mind is:
Lichess does the best that they can.

I'm rated 2000 and some of my reports have taken days to process. I suspect you're mistaken about "low-ranked people" etc.

I recently got a message about being refunded points from a cheater, and I know just who it was referring to. Played and lost badly in a classical game against an obvious cheater profile, but it seems he got caught within two or three days anyhow.

Gonna abort and block any further provisional rating players in the classical pool, thats for sure. You can temp ban me all you like for "poor sportsmanship" I shouldnt be required to play cheaters

I just now was in a blitz game and suddenly the game aborted. The message said "Cheat detected. White is victorious." (I was white.) The move sequence was something I was thinking he should do (and I am only ~1200 rating) so it wasn't anything super complex that only a computer could find. I had never had a detection in-game.

Your opponent probably opened an analysis board while playing, I see no red label on the account, I think that because opening the analysis board does not always mean cheating, it would be too harsh to immediately flag the account.

Has any body noticed the person who started this forum has a closed account. I wonder why?

There is something I dont understand about cheaters..

if its a new account here, we can "understand" that behind it there is a teen who wants to cheat for whatever reasons he has.

But people who have been playing here more than a year, with thousands of games, why do they suddenly cheat? Aren't they supposed to have the love of the game? moreover don't they know they gonna be caught?

Fits here as well:

www.chess.com/blog/PeterDoggers/public-accusations-of-cheating-are-bad