because he's commiting every single war crime there is.
because he's violating international law, and several of them.
because these laws have been signed by 153 states of the world including russia itself.
there is nothing to discuss.
it must be done.
How do you purpose to stop Putin?
Are you willing for a member of your family to die in an effort to stop him?
@KNIGHT_c4 said in #2:
> How do you purpose to stop Putin?
> Are you willing for a member of your family to die in an effort to stop him?
call the police!
One thing's for damn sure:
The USA middle and poor classes are no longer willing to be deep state powder monkeys.
@KNIGHT_c4 said in #4:
> One thing's for damn sure:
> The USA middle and poor classes are no longer willing to be deep state powder monkeys.
translation: poor people in middle states are willing to line up for a person who says they're fighting the 'deep state' when indeed they're a billionaire raising other billionaires to the cabinet level. I'd say, they've been bamboozled
Definitely got the oil barons vote though!
@salmon_rushdie Missing the point.
The deep state currently in power is itching for a war with Russia which cannot be won and which the middle class is not willing to give their blood and treasure for.
You ... are 'missing the point'.
The point is the l a w.
Another post of zero effort, a chant against anything bad, for everything good. Chess players will read this and send nuclear bombs straight to Moscow, via mail.
So, Minsk agreements you decided to ignore. Calls for peace from Russian (!) government and their removal of troops from Kherson in 2022 you decided to ignore. The long history of debates and agreements that were basically trashed after Maidan, alongside with calls to "send Moscow people to the guillotine", who cares? In the end, it's Russia to blame.
Imagine now making the same post against USA for the reason they dropped nuclear bombs on certain Japan cities, but conveniently ignore Axis powers in this equation. By the way, there's a large list of USA foreign interventions even in modern times, including coup d'etats and "democratic" revolutions (or attempts to do them). I recommend to research it, I guarantee, even simply Vietnam or Afghanistan is worth your time to read about.
If you want to make calls against Russia, Putin, and, in fact, any country and their respective leader, provide arguments. "Every single war crime" - yeah, personally. Maybe you should cite some sources, provide every warcrime then, but don't look surprised to find out that violations just might happen to be from both sides, as well as the flow of disinformation.
Of course, you can ignore information you don't like, again, because people really prefer to live in their bubbles and then try frantically shutter other people bubbles through the internet (me as well). So, let's imagine, you called for arms, and people answered.
What will be your part in stopping the Putin? Hooraying for them from the sofa?
And would even such decision be better for other people? I know, sometimes justice requires sacrifice, it's better to stop someone once and for all. What if... it's not Putin though. There's a certain pattern of conflicts around the world, and I don't see Putin being related to them. Except Ukraine, of course.
Whataboutism isn't an excuse for anything.
Putins justification on starting the war in Ukraine is a lie:
foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/03/russia-ukraine-war-putin-prigozhin-wagner/Search for and read up on:
Russian disinformation war
Appeasement before WWII lead to WWII.
Appeasement now will lead to WWIII.
Se thread 'How close are we to WW3?' and my post 30:
lichess.org/forum/off-topic-discussion/how-close-are-we-to-ww3?page=3#30