Maybe have his followers storm it like they did with Capitol?
@Raspberry_yoghurt said in #2:
> Maybe have his followers storm it like they did with Capitol?
I thought of that of course, but that's not enough to become president.
> Maybe have his followers storm it like they did with Capitol?
I thought of that of course, but that's not enough to become president.
Rachel Maddow. who did a short video about it, suggests he may stall the count in as many local districts as he can, in key states (or some tactic along that way). But even if that would delay Harris' installment, I don't see how that would win him the election.
The least crazy scenario (among reasons to not need votes in an election, as there are only crazy reasons to not want votes) is that he's got a deal with the SCOTUS (or thinks he does and started bragging before being sure), where they are still planning to overturn the result, meaning he'll try to disqualify Harris being on the ticket in the first place, and therewith disqualify the outcome in which she won, basically what AOC warned about the night before Biden dropped out. What the SCOTUS get out of it, is that they will become much more powerful under Trump. In fact, they will be so powerful that they can decide that in fact they can remove Harris from the ticket for administrative reasons.
The least crazy scenario (among reasons to not need votes in an election, as there are only crazy reasons to not want votes) is that he's got a deal with the SCOTUS (or thinks he does and started bragging before being sure), where they are still planning to overturn the result, meaning he'll try to disqualify Harris being on the ticket in the first place, and therewith disqualify the outcome in which she won, basically what AOC warned about the night before Biden dropped out. What the SCOTUS get out of it, is that they will become much more powerful under Trump. In fact, they will be so powerful that they can decide that in fact they can remove Harris from the ticket for administrative reasons.
In terms of means (scotus), motive (coup) and opportunity, they have all three if Trump creates the opportunity for them.
Probably like Jan6, but better organized. Trump will instigate riots again, which they now know he can do. And with much more furious Republicans, because if by Trump's request many of his voters did stay home, it would create an absurd looking election result that he counts on translating back into heavier riots. So in this scenario after let's say, three days of devastating riots and many deaths, the SCOTUS will declare Trump president "to restore the order".
Probably like Jan6, but better organized. Trump will instigate riots again, which they now know he can do. And with much more furious Republicans, because if by Trump's request many of his voters did stay home, it would create an absurd looking election result that he counts on translating back into heavier riots. So in this scenario after let's say, three days of devastating riots and many deaths, the SCOTUS will declare Trump president "to restore the order".
Hmmm...
This smells of megalomania...
Maybe we should call somebody.
This smells of megalomania...
Maybe we should call somebody.
I suggest, lots of observers:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_monitoring
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_monitoring
@what_game_is_this said in #7:
> I suggest, lots of observers:
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_monitoring
May not be enough. Like that article says, monitors do not prevent fraud. They can sometimes detect it, but most often the worst they can do is state that the election result can not be certified, because for example a ballot box disappeared from their view for some time. So if you have a corrupt supreme court it may simply reject and push aside monitor reports.
> I suggest, lots of observers:
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_monitoring
May not be enough. Like that article says, monitors do not prevent fraud. They can sometimes detect it, but most often the worst they can do is state that the election result can not be certified, because for example a ballot box disappeared from their view for some time. So if you have a corrupt supreme court it may simply reject and push aside monitor reports.
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@sweetsmurf said in #9:
> My understanding is that pro-trump election officials in various states will not certify
That is what some articles are saying now. But that's not enough for the WH. There's still a gap to be jumped after not certifying the winner, because then they will want to certify the loser. So the refusal to certify is not the ace he thinks he has up his sleeve.
> My understanding is that pro-trump election officials in various states will not certify
That is what some articles are saying now. But that's not enough for the WH. There's still a gap to be jumped after not certifying the winner, because then they will want to certify the loser. So the refusal to certify is not the ace he thinks he has up his sleeve.
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