About 3 days ago,
chess.com launched their new chess engine called “Torch” (AKA “Mystery”)
It already won Ethereal,Komodo Dragon & Lc0 in CCCC.
What do you think about it?
P.S. You can read the announcement here:
www.chess.com/news/view/torch-chess-engine .
Also you can watch Gotham’s video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=opoHpa67oFUVery little info on what it is, in terms of hardware. The software is built on PyTorch, the most popular open source deep learning library for Python. Considering this, "Torch" is a deeply uninspired name.
I would like to see it perform in the LiChess bot rankings. The experts working on it, can help them get more out of their petaflops, but you can't beat a machine with ten times the compute, so it does matter what they are building. Maybe expanding later on.
I think this is an interesting case, because the "top dogs" are working on it, alongside AI. It can prove whether AI + smart humans is better than AI alone. I think we may find soon that the smart humans start mattering less and less, and simply the number of TPUs matters more and more.
My questions would be:
- How many PetaFLOPS were they given?
- How many TPUs are engaged?
It would be interesting to see which engine gets most out of their compute, so a corrected ranking of sorts. Or which engine gets the most out of their kWhs. Compute and energy efficiency being perhaps more important and interesting than building the largest array of TPUs.
@s2numbuq35i said in #3:
> It would be interesting to see which engine gets most out of their compute, so a corrected ranking of sorts. Or which engine gets the most out of their kWhs. Compute and energy efficiency being perhaps more important and interesting than building the largest array of TPUs.
maybe
I hope it dies, especially if it overtakes Stockfish. All non-free software deserves to die, but I think it would be especially dangerous for the chess world if the best chess engine were non-free. It might not effect regular players like you and me very much, but at the top level, deep engine preparation is often seen.
I don't think it will ever outperform Stockfish though.
Did
chess.com make a non-free engine to take down the free engines?
@s2numbuq35i said in #2:
> Very little info on what it is, in terms of hardware. The software is built on PyTorch, the most popular open source deep learning library for Python. Considering this, "Torch" is a deeply uninspired name.
Well
chess.com says it has 3500 elo and it is intornational
@AsDaGo said in #5:
> I hope it dies, especially if it overtakes Stockfish. All non-free software deserves to die, but I think it would be especially dangerous for the chess world if the best chess engine were non-free. It might not effect regular players like you and me very much, but at the top level, deep engine preparation is often seen.
>
> I don't think it will ever outperform Stockfish though.
No-one can ever beat Stock Fish :>
@Kostsov_Sasha said in #6:
> Did
chess.com make a non-free engine to take down the free engines?
What means ‘non-free’?It’s just not open-source (?)
@VasiliTimofeev2013 said in #8:
> No-one can ever beat Stock Fish :>
True