Warn players spanming additions of time increment

@Molurus said in #6:
> Honestly.. I couldn't be bothered by my opponent giving me extra time. Except for maybe in swiss tournaments where other players would (potentially) have to wait for that extra clock time.
In tournaments the "give extra time" option is automatically disabled.

@hydroshadow said in #8:
> but time spamming doesn't violate the rules, and flagging is!

In my opinion @hydroshadow an arbitrator would respond to such behavior if it occurred OTB. For instance, I haven't checked if one exists but I doubt there is a rule to address it, nevertheless if an opponent kept adjusting the clock, not the allotment of time just the clock piece itself, and then re-adjusting it in your peripheral vision every three seconds, I feel this would warrant an official response. While I already mentioned I was going to resign but flagged as a protest. Flagging isn't as much of a violation as much as a victory condition in online play. When evaluating a position with a chess engine it's easy to see my position was 100 percent lost, so letting my clock run out is easy to prove, but it wouldn't be hard to prove my opponent was being disrespectful, annoying, unprofessional through spamming the clock. I suspect that the penalty of letting time run out in such a lost position is an OTB/online tournaments thing because of game scheduling, rewarding/penalizing players between matches via relaxation time/no relaxation time [think all the cheap tricks the Soviets could have tried when Fischer played against them] as a strategy.

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Edited side note: I know online play and OTB are different, in strategies and player behavior, etc, but at least now I know I can turn off adding time in rated play. So discussing things was worth it.

@jhansyman so what happened between soviet players and Fischer? i want to know.

@Cedur216 said in #7:
> @glbert in the ToS under "Sledging", time addition is explicitely listed as a possibility to mock or throw off your opponent.
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> @jhansyman disable it for rated games.

While TOS forbid using sledging "to intentionally distract or throw off an opponent", the opponent in this case could simply not want the game to be won on time and wants the opportunity to go for the mate or to give their opponent the chance to find a trick win. That ain't a TOS violation. Perhaps mocking was intended, but what occurred or the OP feeling that way is far from proof of that, especially when reasonable alternatives exist. And it would be all the harder to claim an attempt to distract or throw off when OP was already prepared to resign and admitted the game was lost for them.

While I appreciate feeling some annoyance in being granted time after determining the situation is hopeless, to respond by doing something (and publicly admitting to it) that is plainly against TOS has at the very least the appearance of a self own. And what makes it all the more ironic is that the opponent may have given extra time because, in a bit of attempted mind reading of their own, they determined OP was just going to run out the clock instead of resigning, so they wanted to make that more difficult. And to them that belief has now been proven.

There's no need to attempt mind reading here. OP wanted to resign. So just resign.

Of course OP is extra wrong when letting out time in response, so the automated warning was deserved.

ToS just say that abusing time addition also counts as unsportsmanship.

A Lichess Moderator said in #11:
> In tournaments the "give extra time" option is automatically disabled.

Yeah, I suspected as much. Makes sense.

@Cedur216 said in #15:
> Of course OP is extra wrong when letting out time in response, so the automated warning was deserved.
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> ToS just say that abusing time addition also counts as unsportsmanship.

Using the term "extra wrong* and referencing the TOS could be taken to imply a claim that the opponent's time addition was abusive. So to be clear, my main point is that there's good reason to believe that it was neither abusive nor against the TOS.

@MentalFugues said in #17:
> Using the term "extra wrong* and referencing the TOS could be taken to imply a claim that the opponent's time addition was abusive. So to be clear, my main point is that there's good reason to believe that it was neither abusive nor against the TOS.

The fact that I said the opponent was unprofessional should imply it was intended for insult/abuse and not for generous sportsmanship. Furthermore, it wasn't lack of understanding or a naive action.

@jhansyman said in #18:
> The fact that I said the opponent was unprofessional should imply it was intended for insult/abuse and not for generous sportsmanship.

Yes, I know what you're claiming regarding the intention. My point was that there are other possibilities, which I specifically mentioned, for what motivated them to add time. You have not provided any evidence ruling them out, and simply declaring they had bad intentions doesn't make it true.

@MentalFugues said in #19:
> Yes, I know what you're claiming regarding the intention. My point was that there are other possibilities, which I specifically mentioned, for what motivated them to add time. You have not provided any evidence ruling them out, and simply declaring they had bad intentions doesn't make it true.

I already admitted I let the clock run in retaliation, that I was in a lost position, that I acknowledge and deserve the warning. I am not trying to prove anything, I brought the issue up to discuss the other player also getting a warning for time abuses unrelated to letting a clock run out. Right now, as far as I understand, which isn't much, that outside of cheating or letting the clock run out, there aren't any other warnings for time abuse.