Voting for Wanted Features

> Are we to vote on every suggestion proposed?
Highly impracticable. Then how will it be decided which ones to vote on? Another vote?

Simple. Members have an option to add a suggestion, thus creating a thread.
On the Feedback forum, there would be a list of suggestions. Then, if one wants to vote, he can click either on a tick or on a cross, respectively adding a positive or a negative vote.
+ A cool add would be also to change thread's organization. What I imagine is something like Debate.org, where positive and negative arguments stand on opposite sides of the page.

> The forum "Lichess feedback" could be formatted to provide a better user experience. As it stands, it's often just chaos, no rhyme or reason, just back and forth banter with little response seen from lichess.

That's our point.

Also, @mdinnerspace, you seem to figure these "votes" as time-limited, majoritary ballots. But that's wrong.

A suggestion would not be IMMEDIATELY added if it gets over 50% pro votes. The suggestions would be ranked following the number of positive votes as well as the total number of expressed opinions. What I suggest as a ranking criteria is :

Total number of votes + Number of Pro votes.

Then, developers can choose which features to add according to this ranking, at their speed and not immediately after a suggestion gets approbation from the majority.

Apparently, people are oblivious to the possibility of "stuffing the ballot box." All it takes is a single word from a few trolls about to their "friends", who rarely play chess, to "vote."
Any results of "voting" can be totally dismissed. Is lichess to take it upon themselves to create a voting program, monitor, validate results and report back to members ???
This is getting much too funny ;-)

I - Trolling issues

If a suggestion is a troll, the devs are intelligent enough not to add it.
No one here on this thread is a troll (except if you are trying to act as one, but I doubt about this).
A vote will not totally thrown over by some few ""friends", who rarely play chess."

II - Lichess monitoring of votes

"create a voting program, monitor, validate results" ? What Lichess has to do is to use the mechanism in Tactics Puzzles' popularity or FAQ's answers' approbation.
"report back to members" -> The only report to members would be to add the feature if the suggestion is agreed upon by members.

If lichess does not send out notifications, just how many would be expected to vote in this thread ?
100? Hardly. What significance does 100 votes have to lichess?

I see alot of "easy" answers what developers and lichess should do or can do. Has any consideration been made to their agreement/cooperation in this proposed voting process?

Telling lichess how to conduct business simply won't fly. Nor should it. Members who think they can start demanding "votes" on what features to add are misguided. It is naive to think members who after voting in a feature, will passively go away when the feature is rejected.

@mdinnerspace

Dude. People are proposing a way to organize and let people show their support for various suggestions instead of posting them on this forum where they dissapear and and gets duplicated and are generally impossible to keep track of.

It seems to me you are purposfully misunderstanding this to be some sort of democratic control, which must pass vigours requirements of fairness and integrety, by users over what the developers have to do, just to have something to argue about. It is not!

The point is just to have a kind of suggestion list which is ranked by something resembling popularity and where duplicates are kept to a minimum.

If trolls gets something voted to the top it is not big deal, developers are obviously not required to anything. If every lichess users voice is not heard exactly equally in a 100% fair way it is not a problem either. Nobody has been promised democracy and nobody is expecting it.

A proposed way of organization ?
Where ? I'm all for reorganization, but have not seen a single proposal except to "vote" on suggested features to add, tally the results, and let lichess know what they already know.

"Voting" implies, suggests and by many demands that the results be listened to and acted upon. Maybe not by a few that are using the term to simply mean expressing an opinion, but trust this, if members are taking their time to cast a "vote" they expect it to be listened to. Why "vote" if it is meaningless in the end because any decision is not theirs. They soon realize the folly of voting.
People easily become disenfranchised.

"Vote" is not the way to invoke changes, to express desirable changes. (unless of course, you live in a democracy where laws are written that majority rules.)
Making boxes available to check approval/rejection is not "voting". Maybe it is all a language thing.

There is quite the difference in saying "check a box expressing an opinion" and "vote on a suggestion yes/no." Casting a vote suggests the result is binding, that the majority prevails. Many here correctly say this is not so, it doesn't have to be binding. The language used is important if such a proposal to make suggestions to lichess is to be a viable one. "Voting" is the wrong terminology.

Ok. So I totally agree with what #26 @vwhite just said.

As for @mdinnerspace, what we mean is indeed "checking a box expressing an opinion".

So, as @mdinnerspace's misunderstanding revealed itself to be a semantic issue, this suggestion seems to be unanimously approved.

I agree with OP's idea. A wishlist. On the left-hand column side of the play page list a few new features to consider. Have a yes column and a no column, each account gets one vote, leave the totals up so people can see them; leave the question up for, say a week or two. See what the results are after the time period.

If nothing else, it would be interesting.