@JoannaTries said in #139:
> I'm just not down for this ' guilty until proven innocent' motto -especially when there's no possibility to do so.
If I was playing devil's advocate I would answer that this is more an "innocent until proven guilty not once but twice" situation.
When you say there's "no possibility to do so" you probably mean there's no possibility to consider him guilty having known him to be a decent player for so long. Then again, many of us realized in this very thread that he got banned from chess.com in 2013 or so for cheating just as he was recently banned from lichess.
A very decent and ethical player can have a moment of weakness. Specially a player that's more likely to believe they have the knowledge about cheat detection that would be sufficient to use an engine in some games and not get caught, such as a strong chess player and "full-stack developer".
I hope you at least see now how the issue is not as black and white as it seemed at first, if you put yourself in the shoes of a third party and look at this from the outside.
> I'm just not down for this ' guilty until proven innocent' motto -especially when there's no possibility to do so.
If I was playing devil's advocate I would answer that this is more an "innocent until proven guilty not once but twice" situation.
When you say there's "no possibility to do so" you probably mean there's no possibility to consider him guilty having known him to be a decent player for so long. Then again, many of us realized in this very thread that he got banned from chess.com in 2013 or so for cheating just as he was recently banned from lichess.
A very decent and ethical player can have a moment of weakness. Specially a player that's more likely to believe they have the knowledge about cheat detection that would be sufficient to use an engine in some games and not get caught, such as a strong chess player and "full-stack developer".
I hope you at least see now how the issue is not as black and white as it seemed at first, if you put yourself in the shoes of a third party and look at this from the outside.