Kb is cheating entirely. You have to use your fingers to move pieces (or the mouse). If you use a keyboard to assist you and you are against people who don't have a keyboard to assist them, you have an advantage. Clearly, getting an unfair advantage is against the lichess ToS.
Nice idea @MrBongcloud. People don't use their fingers for moving the pieces via keyboard? What else do they use?
The problem is the acceptance of accellerating speed and being not aware what it does to players and the game. (Hint: Winning is more important than quality and other factors of the game.) It's an addiction. A discussion about this is as helpful as a discussion about junk with a junkie. Junkies will find ways to refine the kick. That's all they care for.
The problem is the acceptance of accellerating speed and being not aware what it does to players and the game. (Hint: Winning is more important than quality and other factors of the game.) It's an addiction. A discussion about this is as helpful as a discussion about junk with a junkie. Junkies will find ways to refine the kick. That's all they care for.
@Neustart What I meant is that dragging on the screen vs keyboard. But you're also right.
I think it isn't fair, kb is at least playable but multi-premove in ultra can be really annoying, especially in endgames where we mouse users have to eat opponents pawns while the multi-premover may have already premoved till his pawn queens
Really liked how mostly all of you have the same ideas as me. I think premoves are all right as all people can use them, but kb + multi premove is kinda annoying as its too fast and not all the people can use it. What I'm saying is that mobile, touchpad and some mouse players that have a really bad laptop or pc can't install the extension.
@L_Macc i don't see how thats the fault of the kb users. If i had a horrible, could i force those with good mice down?
When everybody uses it, it doen't necessarily be correct. If that's true, then everybody can use engine because it's accessible to everybody.
@VanillaMilk i dont think thats comparable. But i mean premoves are unfair too in my opinion, if thats ok kb extensions are the logical next step.
Everything in life takes time. Premoves should not be zero time consumption.
Even human thinking and processing and time to move a hand from one distance to another.
If you use something so that the clock does not change, then it's cheating time.
You are also preventing your opponent's from pondering during your premoves.
so you premove so you don't have to wait infront of your screen.
It should not be used to have zero time used in a chess move.
The present premove concept is not fair. It gives zero time for a move.
Premove 4 moves, game over zero time used.
If premove does not work, use alternate premoves ...
Sooner or later you will have all the opening traps in an add-on.
It might not be an engine playing but the openings would be done with premoves and alternate premoves incoded in the add-on.
Imagine premoves with incremnt time. You will actually be making time.
Since a player is premoving, maybe we can get a feature to give the extra time made to your opponent.
That way you never make more time than what your original clock had to start with.
Feature example 5+3 ... the plus 3 seconds create by a premove goes to your opponent ... if they have less time then you.
That way you can use an add-on to premove, but you won't make more time then what was originally give.
And it is not longer a clock race, but a real chess game.
Even human thinking and processing and time to move a hand from one distance to another.
If you use something so that the clock does not change, then it's cheating time.
You are also preventing your opponent's from pondering during your premoves.
so you premove so you don't have to wait infront of your screen.
It should not be used to have zero time used in a chess move.
The present premove concept is not fair. It gives zero time for a move.
Premove 4 moves, game over zero time used.
If premove does not work, use alternate premoves ...
Sooner or later you will have all the opening traps in an add-on.
It might not be an engine playing but the openings would be done with premoves and alternate premoves incoded in the add-on.
Imagine premoves with incremnt time. You will actually be making time.
Since a player is premoving, maybe we can get a feature to give the extra time made to your opponent.
That way you never make more time than what your original clock had to start with.
Feature example 5+3 ... the plus 3 seconds create by a premove goes to your opponent ... if they have less time then you.
That way you can use an add-on to premove, but you won't make more time then what was originally give.
And it is not longer a clock race, but a real chess game.
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