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I took my time, my opponent didn't, and I still lost!

#2

Time.... such elusive thing (as quantity).. yet we all think we know it. I have no clue... Time is not consistent at all. The clocks have their own delusions of what it might be... Thanks for this. Some re-centering about this creature.

It might alleviate that fog a bit. Not that I will put myself into such stress again, but being increasingly lazy, I might like to budget my expensive brain time better, even in slow motion chess.

Time.... such elusive thing (as quantity).. yet we all think we know it. I have no clue... Time is not consistent at all. The clocks have their own delusions of what it might be... Thanks for this. Some re-centering about this creature. It might alleviate that fog a bit. Not that I will put myself into such stress again, but being increasingly lazy, I might like to budget my expensive brain time better, even in slow motion chess.
#3

https://lichess.org/@/ryanvelez/blog/i-took-my-time-my-opponent-didnt-and-i-still-lost/B0Nr4AV5#notation

Good idea the anchored headers by the way. Touristic curiosity of mine, also cultural gap:

When playing chess in person, being able to notate moves within the delay / increment allotted to you means your principle time is never used for writing.

I do not understand the point, "being able to notate" = "time never used for writing". I never did such a thing, and it might be my igorance or the sentence has something missing. Anyway, I would not play a time control where that matters... So touristic question. Still curious seriously, why not.. I don't have to be doing it to be curious about it, right, this culture slice.

> https://lichess.org/@/ryanvelez/blog/i-took-my-time-my-opponent-didnt-and-i-still-lost/B0Nr4AV5#notation Good idea the anchored headers by the way. Touristic curiosity of mine, also cultural gap: > When playing chess in person, being able to notate moves within the delay / increment allotted to you means your principle time is never used for writing. I do not understand the point, "being able to notate" = "time never used for writing". I never did such a thing, and it might be my igorance or the sentence has something missing. Anyway, I would not play a time control where that matters... So touristic question. Still curious seriously, why not.. I don't have to be doing it to be curious about it, right, this culture slice.
#4

@dboing said in #3:

Good idea the anchored headers by the way. Touristic curiosity of mine, also cultural gap:

I do not understand the point, "being able to notate" = "time never used for writing". I never did such a thing, and it might be my igorance or the sentence has something missing. Anyway, I would not play a time control where that matters... So touristic question. Still curious seriously, why not.. I don't have to be doing it to be curious about it, right, this culture slice.

Most people I know do not notate time, but I recommend it. All I do is write my move, look at the clock, write the minutes, and circle the minutes so it stands apart from the notated moves.

When you notice large blocks of time disappear, you can scrutinize that part of the game. If you notate time across 10 games, you can then compare the position / moments of when you think a lot on a move(s). It is very helpful to find trends in your thinking.

@dboing said in #3: > Good idea the anchored headers by the way. Touristic curiosity of mine, also cultural gap: > > > I do not understand the point, "being able to notate" = "time never used for writing". I never did such a thing, and it might be my igorance or the sentence has something missing. Anyway, I would not play a time control where that matters... So touristic question. Still curious seriously, why not.. I don't have to be doing it to be curious about it, right, this culture slice. Most people I know do not notate time, but I recommend it. All I do is write my move, look at the clock, write the minutes, and circle the minutes so it stands apart from the notated moves. When you notice large blocks of time disappear, you can scrutinize that part of the game. If you notate time across 10 games, you can then compare the position / moments of when you think a lot on a move(s). It is very helpful to find trends in your thinking.
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#6

I see the time variable, as hindsight self study data. Like on lichess is done automaically, but the deliberate note taking brings that quantitative variable in the face while in the game... and that is the begginning of many game experience progression about including that non-core game rule-set variable into the skill set to experi8netially learn with both brains at the mind screen.

I thought it was about recording the SAN of the moves.. Which would be an attention deal breaker for me. But time, I could see the long term learning theory worth of it. I might mock consider this in correspondance, at my budget of energy/time/day stamina reserve scale. It makes more sense now. Using conscious brain to let the whole brain having more variables made explicit.

I see the time variable, as hindsight self study data. Like on lichess is done automaically, but the deliberate note taking brings that quantitative variable in the face while in the game... and that is the begginning of many game experience progression about including that non-core game rule-set variable into the skill set to experi8netially learn with both brains at the mind screen. I thought it was about recording the SAN of the moves.. Which would be an attention deal breaker for me. But time, I could see the long term learning theory worth of it. I might mock consider this in correspondance, at my budget of energy/time/day stamina reserve scale. It makes more sense now. Using conscious brain to let the whole brain having more variables made explicit.
#8

@princessunicorns said in #7:

I love this blog!!

Thank you! I wish I could write in it more than I do. I just get so busy.

@princessunicorns said in #7: > I love this blog!! Thank you! I wish I could write in it more than I do. I just get so busy.
#9

Therefore, if you think a lot, but lose, you are a step above people who do not think a lot, and lose. It is important to recognize your progress, even when you lose.

In my first pass, I missed that aspect. You might be trying in the previous paragraph to that quote to say more than one thing in one sentence. About the understanding and the effort. It appears to be more complex than it is the number of directions those points can take. So about how to manage time not always about using less time, but taking time with purpose?

Perhaps you should have introduced the notion of familiarity, or skill set gap that might help dis-tangle the many uses of time given one's learned or experiences state. But I appreciate that you are indeed acknowledging the many variables.

Perhaps I should have continued reading.. Perhaps I am following your reasoning....

> Therefore, if you think a lot, but lose, you are a step above people who do not think a lot, and lose. It is important to recognize your progress, even when you lose. In my first pass, I missed that aspect. You might be trying in the previous paragraph to that quote to say more than one thing in one sentence. About the understanding and the effort. It appears to be more complex than it is the number of directions those points can take. So about how to manage time not always about using less time, but taking time with purpose? Perhaps you should have introduced the notion of familiarity, or skill set gap that might help dis-tangle the many uses of time given one's learned or experiences state. But I appreciate that you are indeed acknowledging the many variables. Perhaps I should have continued reading.. Perhaps I am following your reasoning....
#10

Ok. second pass. There was possibly an explicit evolution through the blog, of some debate nature.. Which I appreciate.

And finally all my possible caveat distractions, seem to have been taclked one way or another. This is to be read to the end, at any pace. One can use a layered deepening many pass approach (I am stuck by nature to do that, layered is my thing, maybe iterative deepening is the sequential algo for that, but we have at a glance brain... for the thing being deepened).

Thanks for the evolving classidficaoni and acknowledgement of the subjective description that goes with that. Mechanical versus what was it.. being in the eyes of the beholder.... Those relations should help people communicate about chess toward mutual growth of understanding better than assumingn one's subjectivity is the external reality.. the external realtity is one's subjectivity looking at a common board to another subjectivity. in that discourse the whole thing makes for a more objective discussion.

Ok. second pass. There was possibly an explicit evolution through the blog, of some debate nature.. Which I appreciate. And finally all my possible caveat distractions, seem to have been taclked one way or another. This is to be read to the end, at any pace. One can use a layered deepening many pass approach (I am stuck by nature to do that, layered is my thing, maybe iterative deepening is the sequential algo for that, but we have at a glance brain... for the thing being deepened). Thanks for the evolving classidficaoni and acknowledgement of the subjective description that goes with that. Mechanical versus what was it.. being in the eyes of the beholder.... Those relations should help people communicate about chess toward mutual growth of understanding better than assumingn one's subjectivity is the external reality.. the external realtity is one's subjectivity looking at a common board to another subjectivity. in that discourse the whole thing makes for a more objective discussion.