@ungewichtet leaves it ungewichtet !
Not resigning a lost position is legitimised cheating and I will always lobby against it.
@ungewichtet
Partly agreed: I should have called it "the end", "game over" and I would have been good to go. :)
To die was a harsh expression in my initial responce. Thanks for the correction.
Still, chess is neither a game of friendly attacks nor of friendly defences.
Chess is a fight, a fight which takes place on the board (and not around it).
By introducing chess to kids it is helpful to compare chess to the war: the king is leader of the army; pieces and pawns are soldiers of the different value. Kids get thrilled start to find the game interesting!
Girls are less competetive about checkmating (killing) the king but they love the promotion, as they want to grow up and be a queen.
@Coach_Pineapple - Bringing examples out of ultra/hyper games is pointless: this game is about to flag and to be flagged.
Its actually easier (faster) to run out of time than to locate/press the resign button. :)
@Eleuthero
Why so frustrated? About chess, about people!?
I have played 3000+ games here and noone insulted/offended me so far.
This is a great community!!!
Good games, got to go, I am done - a must at the end of the series (for me).
Well, note taken: if I ever face YOU I will disable premove since you are not using it. Its okay.
On the other hand you cant expect that online it is like OTB.
The options here are kinda different. Premove/not-touchmove, takeback offers are part of the online game.
I remember that I disliked premoving first - but no choices left - adapting to them was a must, otherwise impossible to play bullet. So see you on virtual board, maybe?! Wishing you a sunny day!
Partly agreed: I should have called it "the end", "game over" and I would have been good to go. :)
To die was a harsh expression in my initial responce. Thanks for the correction.
Still, chess is neither a game of friendly attacks nor of friendly defences.
Chess is a fight, a fight which takes place on the board (and not around it).
By introducing chess to kids it is helpful to compare chess to the war: the king is leader of the army; pieces and pawns are soldiers of the different value. Kids get thrilled start to find the game interesting!
Girls are less competetive about checkmating (killing) the king but they love the promotion, as they want to grow up and be a queen.
@Coach_Pineapple - Bringing examples out of ultra/hyper games is pointless: this game is about to flag and to be flagged.
Its actually easier (faster) to run out of time than to locate/press the resign button. :)
@Eleuthero
Why so frustrated? About chess, about people!?
I have played 3000+ games here and noone insulted/offended me so far.
This is a great community!!!
Good games, got to go, I am done - a must at the end of the series (for me).
Well, note taken: if I ever face YOU I will disable premove since you are not using it. Its okay.
On the other hand you cant expect that online it is like OTB.
The options here are kinda different. Premove/not-touchmove, takeback offers are part of the online game.
I remember that I disliked premoving first - but no choices left - adapting to them was a must, otherwise impossible to play bullet. So see you on virtual board, maybe?! Wishing you a sunny day!
I do not understand the original post.
If an opponent plays on despite being down in material, then checkmate him.
If you dislike flagging, then play with increment.
Take control and responsibility.
If an opponent plays on despite being down in material, then checkmate him.
If you dislike flagging, then play with increment.
Take control and responsibility.
@Funkmaus
Of course you're going to dispute my observations because, oddly enough, male chess players are quite chivalrous to female chess players. I've noticed this on all chess websites. Therefore, you're likely the beneficiary of male players being on their absolute best behavior. As obnoxious, ungracious, irrational, and self-centered as male players can be, they fall all over themselves trying to be ultra nice when they encounter a female player. I'll leave it to you to figure out why this is the case.
So ... lucky you!! However, the gracious treatment you're probably getting skews your view of the chess player demographic as a whole. I can only repeat ... before I turned in-game chat off I got ONE "Good Game" in 2000 games.
Of course you're going to dispute my observations because, oddly enough, male chess players are quite chivalrous to female chess players. I've noticed this on all chess websites. Therefore, you're likely the beneficiary of male players being on their absolute best behavior. As obnoxious, ungracious, irrational, and self-centered as male players can be, they fall all over themselves trying to be ultra nice when they encounter a female player. I'll leave it to you to figure out why this is the case.
So ... lucky you!! However, the gracious treatment you're probably getting skews your view of the chess player demographic as a whole. I can only repeat ... before I turned in-game chat off I got ONE "Good Game" in 2000 games.
This could be another topic to discuss.
Not sure it would be a good idea to open a thread and ask the "male-majority", whether they threat the "female-minority" differently.
My friends are telling me that people respond to my questions (in private) because of the magical "W" in front of the FM.
That was the case as I needed help to start with streaming, as I saw interesting things on other streams so I just went ahead and asked people how they did this or that. Also, when I wanted know about this evil ultra-bullet keyboard!
Whatever is the reason I am being threatened nice, I love it! :) I repeat: It is a great community!
Hmm...reacted with thinking...
I will observe this. My second half, FM WattSchrott, is also playing here.
Sadly, he understands very little english and never chats. Sometimes he gets messages from the opponents and asks me to translate them if I am around. Havent seen insults/offence so far. It was more like "missed free piece", "you had mate", "no more", "accept rematch", etc.
He is getting "Good Game"-messages as well and presses TY button in responce. :)
I think is probably something else. Maybe (and sadly) this is the question of the current playing level.
Look: he plays in higher rating range, 2300+. Recently discovered 10+0 rapid games.
He faces more experienced players who are acknowledging with respect to be outplayed, are resigning early - as they have nothing to learn about how their opponent will convert the advantage - and in general, in the 2300+ rating range there are not so many kids who may overreact write bad things in chat....
Hope this doesnt sound arrogant, its really not intended to be!
Wishing you a sunny day again, dear @Eleuthero!
Not sure it would be a good idea to open a thread and ask the "male-majority", whether they threat the "female-minority" differently.
My friends are telling me that people respond to my questions (in private) because of the magical "W" in front of the FM.
That was the case as I needed help to start with streaming, as I saw interesting things on other streams so I just went ahead and asked people how they did this or that. Also, when I wanted know about this evil ultra-bullet keyboard!
Whatever is the reason I am being threatened nice, I love it! :) I repeat: It is a great community!
Hmm...reacted with thinking...
I will observe this. My second half, FM WattSchrott, is also playing here.
Sadly, he understands very little english and never chats. Sometimes he gets messages from the opponents and asks me to translate them if I am around. Havent seen insults/offence so far. It was more like "missed free piece", "you had mate", "no more", "accept rematch", etc.
He is getting "Good Game"-messages as well and presses TY button in responce. :)
I think is probably something else. Maybe (and sadly) this is the question of the current playing level.
Look: he plays in higher rating range, 2300+. Recently discovered 10+0 rapid games.
He faces more experienced players who are acknowledging with respect to be outplayed, are resigning early - as they have nothing to learn about how their opponent will convert the advantage - and in general, in the 2300+ rating range there are not so many kids who may overreact write bad things in chat....
Hope this doesnt sound arrogant, its really not intended to be!
Wishing you a sunny day again, dear @Eleuthero!
@Funkmaus
Thanks very much for your courteous response. I only wish that the men on Lichess were as gracious as you are. Have a wonderful day yourself! Cheers!
Thanks very much for your courteous response. I only wish that the men on Lichess were as gracious as you are. Have a wonderful day yourself! Cheers!
@Eleuthero
How many of your 2000 first games did you send your opponent a 'good game' note? I mean, some, many or most? Even if the response was frustratingly poor, who would prefer a consequences-induced friendliness? Don't give up!
@Eleuthero , @Funkmaus
I said chess was a game of friendly attacks because it really makes a point of the king- the piece that stands in for all other pieces- never being touchable, and not trivially so by stopping before the king would or could be taken, but by demanding something else - an attack that remains, as every response would not change that state, the mate. It is friendly, because it grants fighting one another- the challenge and excitement- educatively and funny; without making destruction (or having at mercy) its end. Proving ability to mate wins instead. This has the gratifying side effect of giving the defender all stalemates to play for.
I believe we all sign in on that, playing by the rules. Where do you find such graceful conditions in the real world but in tender chess?
So chess itself needs more be seen in this friendly light emanating from its rules. And it should be given to the kids rather as seriously funny geometrical play catch than in analogy to war. Then the brows might lift and smilies pour.
How many of your 2000 first games did you send your opponent a 'good game' note? I mean, some, many or most? Even if the response was frustratingly poor, who would prefer a consequences-induced friendliness? Don't give up!
@Eleuthero , @Funkmaus
I said chess was a game of friendly attacks because it really makes a point of the king- the piece that stands in for all other pieces- never being touchable, and not trivially so by stopping before the king would or could be taken, but by demanding something else - an attack that remains, as every response would not change that state, the mate. It is friendly, because it grants fighting one another- the challenge and excitement- educatively and funny; without making destruction (or having at mercy) its end. Proving ability to mate wins instead. This has the gratifying side effect of giving the defender all stalemates to play for.
I believe we all sign in on that, playing by the rules. Where do you find such graceful conditions in the real world but in tender chess?
So chess itself needs more be seen in this friendly light emanating from its rules. And it should be given to the kids rather as seriously funny geometrical play catch than in analogy to war. Then the brows might lift and smilies pour.
@ungewichtet
At first I tapped the GG or WP buttons in the majority of games but then noticed that it wasn't reciprocated. That's when I turned chat off.
You wax poetical about how chess is "friendly" but in my involvements in the Backgammon, Bridge, and Go communities it became clear to me how uncivil and nasty chess players were compared to players in those other communities. I quit playing chess in 1987 and only in the last couple of years I've returned to playing online first at chess.com and now here.
You don't have to convince me that chess is a beautiful game. It is. But the chess community?? Far from "beautiful".
At first I tapped the GG or WP buttons in the majority of games but then noticed that it wasn't reciprocated. That's when I turned chat off.
You wax poetical about how chess is "friendly" but in my involvements in the Backgammon, Bridge, and Go communities it became clear to me how uncivil and nasty chess players were compared to players in those other communities. I quit playing chess in 1987 and only in the last couple of years I've returned to playing online first at chess.com and now here.
You don't have to convince me that chess is a beautiful game. It is. But the chess community?? Far from "beautiful".
@Eleuthero
Thank you for the answer! It was just my idea, that the rules should be seen as gentle and gentle behaviour adopted with that in mind. Guess I was hardly 180 degrees wrong nor misusing poetry or wax. I am probably just being touchy. :)
Thank you for the answer! It was just my idea, that the rules should be seen as gentle and gentle behaviour adopted with that in mind. Guess I was hardly 180 degrees wrong nor misusing poetry or wax. I am probably just being touchy. :)
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